Re: [sccpartners] how do you get the factory polish back on Kris Dougherty 15 Jul 2010 18:44 EDT

That is how I do it now, but I want to learn the wisdom from others
because this is the best lessons I have found.
Thank you for your info.
Kris

flooramor@aim.com wrote:
> Kris,
>
> If I recall correctly from some last posts, you keep the floor wet with water. Do look at the archives, though so I don't pass along misinformation.
>
> J
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kris Dougherty <kris@marblefloorsandmore.com>
> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:53:12
> To: Restoration and Maintenance<sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>
> Reply-To:"Restoration and Maintenance" <sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>
> Subject: RE: [sccpartners] how do you get the factory polish back on
>
> John
> This is great info. Question do you keep the floor wet with densifiers
> or water?
> Kris
>
> John Freitag wrote:
>
>> Kris
>>
>> I have found when using concrete densifiers most of the time there is not
>> enough dwell time for the densiflier to work. I learn may years ago when
>> using a concrete densiflier to wet the floor and keep it wet for a minimum
>> of 45 to 60 minutes. Then vac up the excess material. Then take a finish mop
>> and mop on a thin coat of the densilfier and allow it to dry overnight, the
>> next day come back and finish you honing you will achieve a better stronger
>> finish.
>>
>> This is why we see today many concrete polishing job start to show wear in a
>> short time. The floor that were done as I mentioned above wear much better.
>> The problem is today everyone wants to put down the densiflier and let it
>> work for 30 to 45 minutes and then continue grinding, in many cases they are
>> grinding wet and you never allowed the densifier to do its work and the wet
>> grinding dilutes the densifiler and the concrete never reaches it maximum
>> hardness, thus resulting in a softer finished product. Yes it take a little
>> longer but the results are better.
>>
>>
>> John E. Freitag
>> President/Director
>> The Stone and Tile School
>> Office 407-567-7652
>> Cell 407-615-0134
>> jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com
>>
>>
>>
>> www.thestoneandtileschool.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kris Dougherty [mailto:kris@marblefloorsandmore.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:36 PM
>> To: Restoration and Maintenance
>> Subject: RE: [sccpartners] how do you get the factory polish back on
>>
>> Thank you for your input. Yes we have burnishers and propain buffers and
>> we are a distributor for Americo so we have all those pads. So work more
>> towards dry and higher grit then granite process.
>> Great thanks.
>> Kris
>>
>> Fred Hueston wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Kris
>>>
>>> You may also want to try going to a higher grit . Do you have a
>>> burnisher or access to one,,if so you can try the polishing twister
>>> pad on it as well.  You can also try the 5x by starting wet and going
>>> dry with a hogs hair pad.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Kris Dougherty
>>> <kris@marblefloorsandmore.com <mailto:kris@marblefloorsandmore.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     John,
>>>     Thank you for the information.
>>>     When we did the areas with densiflier I did not notice much of a
>>>     difference. Maybe I should let more soak in for longer?
>>>     The best results was when we started with 100 and worked up to 800
>>>     and then crystallizer. But the floor absorbed moister very easily.
>>>     So I added a penetrating sealer and then crystallizer and I got a
>>>     little more shine. The floor is cement base. I was thinking about
>>>     either using grainite supplies or trying to polish the floor like
>>>     it was just cement and start with 100 metal and then densifier and
>>>     dry 200,400, 800 and high speed 1500 and 3000.
>>>     What do you think?
>>>     Kris
>>>
>>>
>>>     John Freitag wrote:
>>>
>>>         Kris,
>>>         Go back and crystallize the floor you will increase the shine
>>>         and the color.
>>>         Unless the green is a Taiwan green. If it's Taiwan green you
>>>         will not get a
>>>         deep shine or a nice glossy finish.
>>>         On cement based terrazzo you can grind it use a densiflier
>>>         after the 220
>>>         hone then hone up to 800 or 1800 the floors will look very
>>>         good. Want toi
>>>         add additional shine then Crystallize the floor it will look
>>>         great. in fact
>>>         you could hone to 400 or 800 then crystallize and develop a
>>>         great shine.
>>>         The terrazzo institute recognizes crystallization as an
>>>         acceptable method of
>>>         polishing terrazzo.
>>>
>>>         John E. Freitag President/Director
>>>         The Stone and Tile School
>>>         Office 407-567-7652
>>>         Cell 407-615-0134
>>>         jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com
>>>         <mailto:jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         www.thestoneandtileschool.com
>>>         <http://www.thestoneandtileschool.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>         -----Original Message-----
>>>         From: Kris Dougherty [mailto:kris@marblefloorsandmore.com
>>>         <mailto:kris@marblefloorsandmore.com>] Sent: Wednesday, July
>>>         14, 2010 3:17 PM
>>>         To: Restoration and Maintenance
>>>         Subject: RE: [sccpartners] how do you get the factory polish
>>>         back on
>>>
>>>         Dr Fred.
>>>         I have been testing a terrazzo floor in a school. The floor
>>>         has a light green color to it. The pics I took did not turn
>>>         out the way I needed.
>>>         Here is my opportunity.
>>>         The floor was waxed. All the wax was removed.
>>>         The floor I could get a gloss on but not the deep shine I
>>>         would have liked.
>>>         I tested from 30 to 800 and 5x. With different combinations in
>>>         different areas.
>>>         I used all marble polishing supplies.
>>>         Should I try granite supplies because of the lite green and
>>>         maybe the chips are not marble as I was guessing?
>>>         The floor was poured in 1950's.
>>>         Kris
>>>
>>>         Fred Hueston wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>             yes you can listen to all the shows once they are aired at
>>>             www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred
>>>             <http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred>
>>>             <http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred>    we will soon have
>>>             a link on the STP site too
>>>
>>>             On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Mike Marsoun
>>>             <nulifesc@bigpond.com <mailto:nulifesc@bigpond.com>
>>>             <mailto:nulifesc@bigpond.com
>>>             <mailto:nulifesc@bigpond.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                Are these archived. I will be out and would really like
>>>             to hear
>>>                this. There is a TON of engineered stone down here...
>>>
>>>                Sent via BlackBerryR from Telstra
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>                *From: * Fred Hueston <fhueston@gmail.com
>>>             <mailto:fhueston@gmail.com>
>>>                <mailto:fhueston@gmail.com <mailto:fhueston@gmail.com>>>
>>>                *Date: *Mon, 12 Jul 2010 15:55:23 -0400
>>>                *To: *Restoration and
>>>             Maintenance<sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com
>>>             <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>
>>>                <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com
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>>>             <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>>>
>>>                *Subject: *[sccpartners] how do you get the factory
>>>             polish back on
>>>                engineered stone
>>>
>>>                Engineered stone can be faced polished very easily but
>>>             getting
>>>                back the factory shine can be tricky. tune in tonight
>>>             at 7:30pm
>>>                EST to find the little simple trick that will bring it
>>>             back to
>>>                that factory polish.  listen in and don't be afraid to
>>>             call in
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