Baird, I was able to get sets of brushes from Klindex for the planitario and except for th 500 grit I use them often. besides floors I've been hired by fabricators to distress slabs they could not sell as polished etc.

Aloha

Stephen Webb
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www.newlifemarblerestoration.com

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From: Baird Standish

To: Restoration and Maintenance

Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:00 PM

Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Slate Floor Delamination

All excellent Advise. Antonio, how are the color enhancer and ES-82 different? Could I mix them together? Also, where do you get your diamond brushes for your hand held/floor machines? I have large 17" brushes in different grits for my floor machines but not in 3 brush combinations, although perhaps I could attach three smaller brushes to my Klinedex planatario somehow?

I think I will try Mike's Drytreat product. I have another floor I worked on a while back that is delaminating and it looks like the moisture is coming up from the crawl space underneath the building. I told them to run a dehumidifier under there because nothing will probably help unless the moisture is gone.

Probably will also try some DBX.
Baird

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:36 PM, <anthony@777-7797.com> wrote:

I agree with Mike Marsoun, my only concern is the size and area of the project.

On a larger project I would do exactly as he says, in here I would

Equip my slow water fed grinder with a diamond BRUSH, grit 120

I would clean all the baseboards first

Then with 3 brushes under my floor polishing machine I would really clean the surface, the brushes are actually grinding a film so you should be left with a pretty new looking floor.

Let it dry

Apply ES-82 from Fila, is my preference. Most products if you follow its life line have evolved from a mother company, like Fila. Fila has been around for 65 years or so. I have had the pleasure of using this efflorescence inhibitor since the early 90’s and it has never given me a problem.

Finish with a color enhancer on the floor and your set

This work should not take more than 6 to 8 hours to do judging by what I can see.

My only concern is the stripping part, if you have coating you may want to try to remove as much of that as you can, the diamond brushes act exactly as a resin bond diamond would, I will glide on a coating.

Antonio

Marble Maestro

Montreal

From: Mike Marsoun [mailto:nulifesc@bigpond.com]
Sent: June-02-09 5:37 PM

To: Restoration and Maintenance
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Slate Floor Delamination

If you can remove all the loose material (pressure extractor) and use a consolidant like ProSoco 40SK (which is not for floors) Dry Treat has a similar product (ethyl silicate) which you can use on floors. This will re bind the minerals. I have used it on really bad slate and it works fine. Then you can tell them you have done all you can.

From: fhueston@gmail.com [mailto:fhueston@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Dr Fred
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:41 PM
To: Restoration and Maintenance
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Slate Floor Delamination

there is not a lot you can do..just be sure you tell the customer that this is a problem and the moisture source must be found. Chances are the stone will need to be replaced.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Baird Standish <bairdstandish@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you all for your insights. Looks like we will be starting this job after the 19th.

Cheers,

Baird

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Baird Standish <bairdstandish@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

We have been asked to strip, clean and seal an old residential interior slate floor. We have done this kind of thing before and it appears somewhat straight forward assuming we can test to figure out what gets the gook off the best. Problem is that there is water damage around the edges that has created delamination on some of the stones. How do you all deal with this kind of issue? I have warned the owners that this problem may not go away if there is constant water migration underneath the stone. Hard to say if this is recurring thing. it looks like the wood floor in the next room are warped from a flood of some kind, but at least part of the floor is adjacent to an exterior wall. It is sort of a sun room. I posted some pix.

Thanks for any advice.

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