The color enhancer is different from the es-82. The color
enhancers are always a difficult product to use so I let you use your preferred
choice.
You can mix them as long as you use them properly , meaning
after you use the es-82, you allow it to dry before applying the enhancer.
For the brushes, if you have the 17” brushes that should
be great
For the smaller brushes I purchased them through VIC
international in the USA
For the Klindex, which I have as well, I purchased the Frankfurt
plate and purchased a complete set of Frankfurt brushes, I found the machine
too heavy to place 3 brushes under the planetario head, so I bought a Frankfurt
plate with 5 shoes and used it without the planetario.
Antonio
Marble Maestro
From: Baird Standish
[mailto:bairdstandish@gmail.com]
Sent: June-02-09 7:00 PM
To: Restoration and Maintenance
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Slate Floor Delamination
All excellent Advise.
Antonio, how are the color enhancer and ES-82 different? Could I mix them
together? Also, where do you get your diamond brushes for your hand
held/floor machines? I have large 17" brushes in different grits for
my floor machines but not in 3 brush combinations, although perhaps I could
attach three smaller brushes to my Klinedex planatario somehow?
I think I will try Mike's Drytreat product. I have another floor I worked
on a while back that is delaminating and it looks like the moisture is coming
up from the crawl space underneath the building. I told them to run a
dehumidifier under there because nothing will probably help unless the moisture
is gone.
Probably will also try some DBX.
Baird
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:36 PM, <anthony@777-7797.com> wrote:
I agree with Mike Marsoun, my
only concern is the size and area of the project.
On a larger project I would do
exactly as he says, in here I would
Equip my slow water fed grinder
with a diamond BRUSH, grit 120
I would clean all the
baseboards first
Then with 3 brushes under my floor
polishing machine I would really clean the surface, the brushes are actually
grinding a film so you should be left with a pretty new looking floor.
Let it dry
Apply ES-82 from Fila, is my
preference. Most products if you follow its life line have evolved from a
mother company, like Fila. Fila has been around for 65 years or so. I
have had the pleasure of using this efflorescence inhibitor since the early
90’s and it has never given me a problem.
Finish with a color enhancer on
the floor and your set
This work should not take more
than 6 to 8 hours to do judging by what I can see.
My only concern is the
stripping part, if you have coating you may want to try to remove as much of
that as you can, the diamond brushes act exactly as a resin bond diamond would,
I will glide on a coating.
Antonio
Marble Maestro
Montreal
From: Mike Marsoun [mailto:nulifesc@bigpond.com]
Sent: June-02-09 5:37 PM
To: Restoration and Maintenance
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Slate Floor Delamination
If you can remove
all the loose material (pressure extractor) and use a consolidant like ProSoco
40SK (which is not for floors) Dry Treat has a similar product (ethyl
silicate) which you can use on floors. This will re bind the minerals. I have
used it on really bad slate and it works fine. Then you can tell them you have
done all you can.
From: fhueston@gmail.com [mailto:fhueston@gmail.com] On
Behalf Of Dr Fred
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:41 PM
To: Restoration and Maintenance
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Slate Floor Delamination
there is not a lot you can
do..just be sure you tell the customer that this is a problem and the moisture
source must be found. Chances are the stone will need to be replaced.
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Baird Standish <bairdstandish@gmail.com>
wrote:
Thank you all for your insights. Looks like we will
be starting this job after the 19th.
Cheers,
Baird
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Baird Standish <bairdstandish@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi,
We have been asked to strip, clean
and seal an old residential interior slate floor. We have done this kind
of thing before and it appears somewhat straight forward assuming we can test
to figure out what gets the gook off the best. Problem is that there is
water damage around the edges that has created delamination on some of the
stones. How do you all deal with this kind of issue? I have warned
the owners that this problem may not go away if there is constant water
migration underneath the stone. Hard to say if this is recurring thing.
it looks like the wood floor in the next room are warped from a flood of
some kind, but at least part of the floor is adjacent to an exterior wall.
It is sort of a sun room. I posted some pix.
Thanks for any advice.
Baird
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