I did ……. I used Stone Tech grout cleaner, areas
composed primarily of mineral etched while other resin areas remained unchanged.
I think engineered stone has a real place in the market today. If the engineered
stone industry can control cost, improve durability, stay green, and provide
more choices they will dominate the market one day.
I won’t touch anything surfaces until I know what I’m
getting into. I hear people say I take along a sample board with me to show the
home owner the different finishes ..…. The only this I use a demo board
for is color sealing …….. I always ask if they have a piece of
stock, where did they buy the stone, who installed it, cleaning, ect.
I agree that many people in the stone industry don’t know
what they’re talking about …… Today the stone industry is
more about marketing than anything else …… I have been fortunate to
meet a few that have a true passion for the profession.
Again I agree the SCC line for the most part a good line of
products. Unfortunately I have not been successful in getting customers to buy
them. I frequently get calls from customers who want to purchase the products
but they don’t want to pay the shipping.
Did you try the acid test as I had
recommended? To see what would have happened? I have a new
encounter with another engineered stone today in a kitchen- full of acid burns.
They are all not made the same, so get ready for a rock n roll ride. Many
people in this industry just don’t know what they are talking about
anymore. I just bought the most advanced machine in lippage removal. It’s
a geared driven machine, so far I think the guy who made it is a genius, but he
then places wet resin bond diamonds in a box for me to use dry, if this was me
20 years ago I would have been left with Velcro only tonight after running the
diamonds dry for a few hours. but he insisted this was the best dry
diamonds available, so much so that I tried it. An hour later, Velcro!
Whatever you do, just keep testing your stuff, test after test after
test, and you will never be able to stop, there is just too many changes going
on that we just cannot know about. Products and chemicals companies change
their formulas, diamonds and resin change their compositions, stones are
trafficked with all kinds of stuff. Do small test before doing anything,
all the time. We really need to push our on SCC line.
I know what cultured marble is and this product is not cultured
marble. The vanity top and back-splash are two separate pieces; the sink is an
under-mount and not a part of the vanity top. The product could easily be
mistaken for marble …….. I removed the vanity top today It weighs
15.4 pounds without fixtures and marked with something in Chinese. This was my
first encounter with engineered stone and I must admit “IT LOOKED BETTER
THAN MARBLE” No warranty but the retailer has agreed to send the home
owner a new top. The home owner has agreed to give me the old top if the retailer
doesn’t want it, If that happens I’ll’ give you a call John.
I agree, I think this is not a natural stone product.
One clue is the question about polishing the joint where splash meets
deck. Usually these are set on splashes and not integra. If the
joint is coved and is appears as one piece I am sure this is a cultured marble
product. Does this have integral bowl and integral splash. Keep in
mind many customers tell you they bought a marble vanity when they really don't
know the difference themselves. First step, identify the material.
Technical Director, Fabrication
Stone and Tile Pros
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 8:16 AM, John Freitag <email@example.com>
Smart, if you’re not familiar with
engineered stone be careful. If you hone it, it’s not like honing marble
or granite. I recommend the diamond from Alpha that are designed for engineered
stone. you normally start at a 500 grit or higher, note the stone is not damaged
in most cases , it is the resin that is used to hold the stone together that is
usually damaged, unless there is a quartz pop out or these is what is called
Most of the engineered stones do not have the
deep shine we are use to seeing in granite and marble. There are some process I
can give you to try should you elect to try and fix the problem.
Most engineered stone comes with a warranty from
the manufacturer and the customer should contact the company they purchased the
top from to see if there is any warranty on it .
If not and you want to try fixing it call me, we
can review some simple processes
The Stone and Tile School
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John, I’m not sure if it
is a true marble. I think it might be engineered for a couple of reasons:
1) The manufacture referees to the stone as
2) The stone has a fiber glass mesh glued
to the underside.
3) The stone has a finish similar to
4) The finish looks like it was sanded and
then finished with a buffing compound.
5) The finish has very little clarity or
6) The etch marks are isolated to areas
approximately 1/4 “ in diameter all over the surface, If it was a true
marble and was sprayed wouldn’t the etch marks be much larger especially
with a wiping motion.
7) Vanity, marble top, sink, faucets and
free shipping for less than $1,200.
I called the manufacture and
left a message, but they have not returned my call. I’m not familiar with
engineered stone and I don’t want to get over my head.
Are you sure this is a marble surface??? I
looked at the countertop on the attached link and this looks very similar to an
engineered stone. if this is an engineered stone it may not be an etch mark but
marks left from other products that attacked the resins in the engineered
If this is a marble you can probably achieve the
finish using a honing powder to blend the finishes.
From: Anthony Masecchia
Sent: September-23-09 5:37 AM
To: 'Restoration and Maintenance'
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Polishing Marble Vanity Top
I looked over the site, the only
marble they mention is the cream color, all the rest they call it
Granite. It looks like a honed finish from the picture. But if it
left multiple etches it sort of contradictory to everything granite is, unless
they dropped something like toilet bowl cleaner on it.
The other issue is the price making me believe this is a Chinese
product and they are strong at dying their tops. If the top you are referring
to is black or blue it might be the die that was affected with this unknown
You have to make sure its marble or granite , bring a little stone acid,
what you use to clean the grout with and make a test to see if it reacts.
Polish it as you would a marble or granite floor, same methods.
As for the seam where they join, I am not certain I followed, but if you
mean that it was affected right up to the crack and can’t really get to
it, maybe you can finish it with a fine silicone line.
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I looked at a vanity purchased from Max
. About a week after installing the vanity one of the family cleaned the vanity
top with an unknown product that left multiple etch marks on the surface.
I’ve polished marble floors but not a vanity top. The top doesn’t
have a marble like finish, the finish is similar to polished Corian. How do you
polish the joint where the back-splash and vanity top joins ? Will a felt pad
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