Thanks Fred. Was Just got off the phone with the owner of
Infotile, who is also the publisher for Discovering Stone. We had a great talk.
From: Fred Hueston
[mailto:fhueston@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:11 AM
To: Restoration and Maintenance
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] sanded grout
Are there any trade magizines
in Australia where you could have this published. I would start there. Good
article by the way
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Mike Marsoun <nulifesc@bigpond.com> wrote:
Fred,
John, anyone!
I
am looking for help down here in Australia. Regarding a huge problem I am
seeing in the stone industry. I was seeing this on a few jobs, then a few more,
now it is looking like it is the standard. These people need education, really
bad. Below is an article I wrote for my website, and whoever else will listen.
I need to get the word out to the right people. But who? Here is the article:
Sanded or Un-sanded Grout on Dimensional Stone
Floors
By: Mike Marsoun
I have noticed an alarming trade practice here in Australia
which desperately needs to be addressed.
The root of this problem is the same as in the US where you
will find ceramic tile installers stepping into the area of natural stone
tiles, which is a skill really more suited for a stonemason. Since the
stone tiles are essentially the same size and shape as a typical ceramic floor
tile, the reasoning is that laying could not be too different and one could use
the same techniques. Nothing could be further from the truth. The density,
porosity, stability, colour consistency, and size/thickness consistency is all
very different in stone and for a proper installation all of these factors need
to be considered. Where one could lay all ceramic tiles with certain setting
materials and technique, this is not the case with natural stone.
From what I have seen this problem is wide spread and the
seriousness threatens the stone industry itself. Stone installations are not
holding up over time and it is the material, rather than on the faulty
installation practices, that are copping the blame.
One problem I have seen in a large majority of floors I
have looked at for restoration is the incorrect use of floor grout. The problem
goes like this: for some strange reason here in Australia the materials
companies put grout in two classifications, “Wall Grout” and
“Floor Grout”. The “Wall Grout” is always un-sanded,
and the “Floor Grout” is always sanded. Now, this is unique to
Australia. In the US and Europe grout is simply “sanded” or
“un-sanded” and it is left up to the installer to decide where it
is used, floor or wall.
It is important to note that un-sanded is made for joints
1/8 inch (3 mil) or less, and sanded grout is made for joints greater than 1/8
inch. The un-sanded grout is better suited to filling smaller gaps, flows
better and has the ability to stay consistent. Sanded grout will not have the
depth of penetration in the smaller joints, and the consistency will change as
it is spread, some areas become heavy on the sand, and light on the cement
component, this makes for very weak grout which will come out with regular
scrubbing and pressure cleaning.
This is especially a problem on stone floors, travertine,
marble, limestone, where a 1/8 inch or smaller joint is typically used. Due to the
porosity of these stones, the sanded grout has an even greater problem staying
hydrated and therefore has even less penetration.
Aside from all the above, sanded grout makes
grinding/refinishing very difficult, if not impossible. What happens is this:
the grinding is done in a series of steps, starting aggressively with
flattening, then onto the honing steps which bring up the shine. Now, when
honing is being done the environment has to be very clean, any hard debris
could get under the abrasives and cause scratches. So when the grinding is
carefully brought up to a nice hone, and some very hard silica sand comes out
of the unstable sanded grout joint this will leave scratches. This is why in
most every case a stone floor with sanded grout cannot be fully flattened and
restored. I have seen this in most floors I have looked at for restoration and
it is very frustrating because it is so unnecessary.
Dimensional stone floors should always have joints of 1/8
inch or less, therefore ALWAYS should receive un-sanded grout. This is the
international standard and it is time we got on board. It is simple common
sense, and to see it done incorrectly is an embarrassment to the trade. Please
spread the word.
For
more information please go to: www.nulifestonecare.com.au
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