Barid,
It not about the cost of the equipment, it the value the
customer feel they are getting. If you told the customer the job would take 4
day and you get it done in 2 the customer has every right to question you on
the price per day.
There is always a preconceived value to the customer. I have
seem marble restoration contractor after contractor loose business because
after the job was done in less time the preconceived value the customer felt
they were over charged. The next time the customer needed work they look for a
different contractor.
Let’s look at a $2000 investment in a piece of equipment
if you are going to use that piece of equipment at least once per week or more
it might be worth the investment. But if you are going to only use it once
every 2 to 3 months the cost of that investment would probably not be a good
return on investment. Now if your company has excess cash then a long term pay
back may not be a bad idea. You may find you can take a complete write off on
that piece of equipment in one year instead of depreciating it over the
IRS rules.
I have operated a restoration company that had marble and stone restoration
sales in excess of I million dollar per year and had a net income of 32%. It all
about volume and pricing the jobs to keep you guys working 22 days per month,
and adding new technicians and build their work load up to 22 days per month. the
next thing you need is re occurring income ( Maintenance Contracts) where
you can keep one, two or three guys working 22 nights per month.
At the end of the day one can continue to invest dollar after
dollar to buy the newest and fastest system but unless you give you customer a
value for the dollar they spent ,your repeat business will suffer. I have seem
restoration contractor consistently invest in equipment and at the end of the
month they have some neat tools but they can’t pay their bills .
I can remember when concrete polishing first started guys were
getting $2.50 to $3.00 per square foot, then everyone wanted to go big and
purchased all this big equipment to do the job faster. What actually happen the
competition keep getting lowering their prices and now the price for these guys
with the big equipment are getting $1 to 1.25 per sq. ft and if they are working
that equipment every day they are losing money.
I like to keep thing simple, go after the sale volume and
build my reputation on fair prices and great workmanship. This is how I built
my last marble and stone restoration business and this is how I plan to build my
new restoration business.
I sure other feel different but I’ll stick with what I know
has work for me and other I worked within the past that have great sales, great
profits and they keep their business simple with minimum investment.
John E. Freitag
President/Director
The Stone and Tile School
Office 407-567-7652
Cell 407-615-0134
jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com
From: Baird Standish
[mailto:bairdstandish@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:14 PM
To: Restoration and Maintenance
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Planetary Tool for counter tops?
Hi John. I did bid the
job with the Makita in mind. That being said, you bring up an interesting
philosophical point. My general philosophy is that, whereas I may take
into account however long it takes me to get a job done the regular way, If I
can get it done more efficiently by being more technologically advanced or
smarter than the next guy, I shouldn't make less money simply because I am
better at it. To use a Wild hypothetical example, If I were to buy a
$50,000 floor machine that allows me to price a job at $1.00 psf rather than
three, I would still charge $3.00 on the assumption that the capital cost of
the machine drives up my sunk costs and my capital risk (maybe I would
prie a little cheaper to insure getting th business) , and there would be no
reason for me to buy the machine if It didn't allow me to work more
profitably. So If I can get a job done in two days rather than four by
investing in a $2000.00 machine and learning how to use it, I think I should
reap the rewards. The bessemer steel process made Carnegie Steel the
largest steel company in the world 130 years ago because they figured out how
to do it better than the other guys. Anyway, I'm interested to hear what
other people think, because this equipment costs a lot of money and not worth
it if I can't use it to my advantage.
Baird
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:57 PM, John Freitag <jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com>
wrote:
Baird,
I have if the tables are large enough
and you have a 1o or 13 inch floor machine with a short handle these work the
best . if not I find I can hone with the makita hand machine as quick as
anything, you can use these other devises but make sure your technician hold
the machine flat on the surface or you will wave the stone.
How did you bid the job ?using a Makita
or another a different size machine.
Once you bid a job the process and the
size of the machine should have already been determined. Therefore your price
and profits were based upon the process and the equipment you bid. Switching
process and or equipment just o get off the quicker should have been taken into
consideration. If you bid a job for 4 days and then when you actually do
the job you get done in 2 days the customer could question why the difference
in time.
Then the customer looks at the price for
the number of day then could feel they paid too much for 2 day service when the
job was bid for 4 days of service. The customer not question value for the
price.
After that lecture you can use a 7 Inch
pad for honing, you can use a floor machine provided you have a machine with a
short handle, I do not recommend you try to stand on the table and use the
floor machine.
My experience is use the equipment you
plan on using when you bid the job.
John E. Freitag
President/Director
The Stone and Tile School
Office 407-567-7652
Cell 407-615-0134
jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com
From: Baird
Standish [mailto:bairdstandish@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:46 PM
To: Restoration and Maintenance
Subject: [sccpartners] Planetary Tool for counter tops?
Hi,
We are starting a job grinding, honing and polishing some old marble tables
(large areas), and was curious if anyone has much experience or comment about
going with one of those flex or intertool planetary head honing/polishing
machines. I typically just use makitas with appropriate heads and also
have one of those aluminum three socket heads that goes onto a makita. Am
thinking it is just as easy to go with 7" electroplated discs. These are
old marble tables that were used to make candy, and they will continue to make
candy with them, so they don't have to look like church alters, just ding free
with a satin or semi-gloss finish.
Thanks.
Baird
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