Thanks Mike. I'll stay away from it. 
B

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From Baird Standish
Managing Partner
Facility Specialists,LLC
1616 Walnut Street
Philadelphia, PA 19103
Ph: 215-732-7505
Fx: 215-740-6436

On Jul 19, 2010, at 6:11 PM, "Mike Marsoun" <nulifesc@bigpond.com> wrote:

That stone tech pro is a mechanical process and can be re used on the next 2-3 sections. This is probably where they got the usage rates. It is however a lot more labor time, manipulating the slurry into a new area again and again, the the clean up is much more difficult because it is a superfine Aluminum Oxide, can easily stain grout. It also has to be worked much longer because there is no chemical (oxalic acid) kicker. So what John is saying is quite true, you will loose out on labor costs big time.

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From: "John Freitag" <jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:25:05 -0400
To: Restoration and Maintenance<sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>
ReplyTo: "Restoration and Maintenance" <sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] 5x cost per unit?

Baird ,

 

Where were you in class when we went over cost of materials. The 5X powder cost you as a Partner 279.00 for 45 pounds this  equals a cost of $6.20 per pound you will use approximately 2 no more than 3 ounces of powder for every 10  sq,ft.  therefore if you use 2 ounces  per 10 SQ FT there is 16 ounces to a pound divided by 2 = 8 , 10 SQ FT sections or 80 SQ FT per pound $6.20 divided by 80 SQ FT = .0777 per sq ft.

 

NOW , this is more then .02 per sq ft but my bet is you will not get that low of cost on that powder, I have tried all types of powders and found the 5X powder to be the best,

 

If you use powders other than  5X  I cannot not guarantee you will get the same result as we did in training, if you need to spend more time then you labor rates will go up and you have saved NOTHING !   

 

Over the years I have seen to many restoration contractor worry about the cost of materials, and not pay any attention to their labor costs. If your material costs are running over 5 to 6 % of you sales you have problems, not so much with you cost, but how your employees are using the materials.

 

The bigger number to look at is labor! If you labor rates are running over 30 % you have problems. This could be a loss of productivity, over  p aid employees or your techniques do not allow you the maximum  productivity.

 

If you purchase all your products from Stonecare Central and you control the use of the products you material and supply cost should not be over 5 to 6 %

 

Watch you labor if it’s over 30 % ( direct labor  no benefits taxes etc included  ) you need to look at you r productivity.

 

Do your technicians need to stop on their way to a job site to pick up supplies ?? if so then take a simple 5 to 8 mile trip to Home Depot or other stores and calculate what it cost you. You are not getting in and out of the store any faster then 30 minutes, then figure the drive time you , it cost you a least $13 to $18 for that hour maybe more depending upon you r pay scale. Oh if you are sending 2 technician to a job double those cost!  So what have you really saved  NOTHING it cost you money.

 

Look at the labor numbers find a single source supplier like StoneCare Central and review your monthly material and supply cost if they are over 5 to 6 % we need to talk.

 

 

John E. Freitag

President/Director

The Stone and Tile School

Office 407-567-7652

Cell 407-615-0134

jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com