Jason,
You can use the SCC concrete diamonds for dry grinding the limestone.
However Iperfer not to dry grind any stone at this time unless have a system
to collect ALL the dust. Not sure how much water you are using but my guy can
grind ALL day long and not use more than 8 to 10 gallon of water and my vac
holds 15 gallon, so I just haul my slurry back to my shop.
Caution to all partners, be careful dumping any slurry etc on a
job site I know a restoration contractor that just paid out $6000 to have the
drains in a building cleaned and the city is now looking at fining him for the
dumping. Recommend you hall slurry etc back to your shop a set up drums to
allow the slurry settle then pump off the water and depose of the slurry by
having it hauled off or dry it and put it in a dumpster.
The states and cities are getting tough on dumping anything down
the sewer line or storm drains.
John E. Freitag
President/Director
The Stone and Tile School
Office 407-567-7652
Cell 407-615-0134
jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com
From: Jason Francis
[mailto:jfrancis@marbleglow.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 8:50 AM
To: Restoration and Maintenance
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Recent Jobs
Nice to hear from you Stu. In MB fashion it was a long one!
Good thoughts for sure and great to hear you are the owner of MB Stone.
The heat has been terrible up here...I was working in a basement
last week and thought I was gonna have a stroke.
Hey got a question for you and others....
I mostly use my Lavina on concrete...but want to use it to
restore a honed limestone floor with minor lippage. I want to use it dry because
there is no place to dump slurry. Are the foam heads flexible enough to hone a
floor without grinding flat? I would use a honing powder at the end but I am a
little concerned.
I am sure some of you go dry on limestone because of moisture.
Since I have never done this, are there any potential problems with the heat?
John...does SCC sell diamonds for dry use?
Best,
Jason
Marble Glow
Jason Francis
Sales/ Lead Stone Pro
333 Norton Road
Red Hook, NY 12571
845-208-8289 office
845-622-4886 fax
From:
rosen.stuart@gmail.com [mailto:rosen.stuart@gmail.com] On Behalf Of stuart
rosen
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 6:50 PM
To: Restoration and Maintenance
Subject: [sccpartners] Recent Jobs
Recently we completed a thirty day job refinishing
terrazzo,travertine,botticino, and some black marble. The marble was installed
in 1925 right about the time they stopped maintaining it. It was a mess and to
make matters worse there was nowhere to dump slurry and all the electric was
tied into 15 amp breakers. All the plugs were in the laundry room in the
basement and we were starting five floors above.Anyway we ran 100's of feet of
ten gauge wire and we used a mastercraft pump vac which was so effective we
could have pumped the slurry to another town. The one window on each floor
caused the temperature in the hallways to rise above 95 degrees with no air
movement at all. Of course those floors all had badly stained cove moldings
which we really enjoyed grinding clean and refinishing. In this case we
couldn't run our lavina due to electricity concerns so we had to use swing
machines on 4000 sq ft of terrazzo which worked fine.
We started at 70 grit metal and worked the floor to about 400 resin and tryed
to polish with MB-12. We were making great progress and were happy the end was
in sight. The "12" was doing great until somewhere under 100 sq ft
the breakers kept blowing as the pad loaded and the drag increased we weren't
able to polish with the "12". We also enjoy working with 5x and have
gotten pretty good at using it even though it can get a little boring after a
while.Not to mention the huge amount of powder consumed by the floor.The
"5" saved our asses produced good results and got us home.
During that job we also had another job running of 1000 sq
ft 50 yr old travertine badly soiled. I subbed that job out to a wonderful
fellow who is comfortable using 5x and I had no objections to his procedure as
I know his work his quality and I had no worries. Well we all know each job we
take on can has the potential to have issues. For whatever reason when the job
was completed the customer was concerned that some areas were not uniform with
the rest of the floor. Some areas were glass and others the luster just wasn't
maxed out. The travertine was unfilled and crystallizing wasn't an
option as it would make a mess. Why would anyone need to do that to
travertine anyway.I had to go back a s soon as our schedule allowed it and
complete that floor. My sub wanted to go back and redo the floor with 5x again.
No way- more mess lots of time and effort for a job that should have been
completed. I went back myself and without wasting too much time I was able to
pop all the duller areas to the highest luster matching the room that had
seemed to have the best finish. Customer was elated and so was I.The follow up
was done with MB-12 and was so quick and easy it was comical.
I am not trying to make any point here just relating factual past experiences
that Have caused me continuing education in this business.
As stone refinishers and contractors we need to be able to
solve any situation that comes our way quickly and efficiently. I believe each
one of us as independent businessman should have an open mind and be willing to
try different products and or techniques that are proven performers adding to
our arsenal of tools so that we can accomplish whatever we are called upon to
do.I have learned thru my experience that every tool or product has its
limitations. Along with that theory I am aware that what works for one person
may not work for another.
I also know that learning how to play golf,tennis, skiing or
any technical activity requires determination,will power and lots of practice.
But if you have taken the time to learn a skill or activity it eventually
becomes second nature and always expands your horizons one way or another. Self
confidence and a positive outlook in this business or anything we do in life
can be half the battle right there.
I think that it is important that products get endorsements to a certain point
but how much credence does a professional give to product
endorsements based on single opinions.
Ever see and enjoy a movie a critic said sucked. Ever been
to a restaurant that you loved but had never been reviewed and at the same time
ever been to a restaurant with a great review that wasn't so great. Ever put
on footwear endorsed by a super star only to get blisters.
Being the new owner of MB Stone I get Many questions regarding the use
of these products. I also get many positive calls from folks who rave
about the polishing products.
The fact is they aren't for everyone!
But then again is any product?
I would never lock myself into one product ,not that
there would ever be a shortage or price increases but who knows.
While there is this mystery and ambiguity about MB products regarding
their use and results those products once mastered produce incredible results.
I think the fact that these products are successfully used around the world is
evidence enough that they are credible and worthy of trying.
I would love to see them in the new partner book and would
always make myself available to offer product assistance in any way.
Please don't construe this opinion as anything other than an
opinion based on my experiences working with stone and connecting with many.
Regards,
Stu Rosen
201-446-1200
www.mbstonecare.com
www.stoneshine.com
"A posse ad esse "
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