MB-8 requires a flat floor and a burnisher and has to be maintained with MB-10.It has its place in commercial applications and when understood works very well.It doesn't need to be stripped,just maintained with MB-10.It actually has a finish with good clarity and doesn't look waxy.It may not be practical for residences unless they are enormous mansions that have a maintenance staff.
I didn't mean to go off on a tangent sorry about that.What amazes me however is we are in a business where each technician may approach a job in his or her own way dependent upon experience and the tools at hand.I have found that the ability to be able to have other tradesmen and women to learn from and tap into their knowledge base has proved invaluable.


 
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Dr Fred <fhueston@stoneandtilepros.com> wrote:
True, the MB8 would give you a shine however that product contains some waxes and you will get that artificial look and it wont last as long.  If you want you can try both methods to see which one you prefer.
 


 
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 12:04 PM, stuart rosen <mail@stoneshine.com> wrote:
Jason,
How big is the floor?Strip the wax off first to see what the floor actually looks like you may be surprised.It could possibly be in better condition then you thought then you can make a better assesment of what to do.Try and find the easiest way to restore the floor.
It is probably best to grind it flat(and take it up till you get a good reflection and clarity) as it will be easier to polish.But it really depends on the size of the bathroom,the condition of the floor,the stone and the customers expectation.Some greens can be easier to work with.Consider the pricing as well if this is based on a one day job you will need to get in and out especially if your driving for four hours.
Maybe using a combination of diamonds,twisters or monkey pads(wet and dry) and mb-12 which if used correctly on serpentine works very well(tin oxides work well also).I have been able to polish some greens with monkey pads going dry at high speed after removing the wear and tear.(however it lacks clarity)
To really sum it up to work on greens you need to bring out the tools that will get you out of the bathroom with a satisfied customer.
As far as the mb-20(for granite) is concerned it is really an amazing product.
Like any other product you need to try it out for yourself in a test environment so you can become comfortable before taking it out on a job. Like most polishing compounds there are no step by step instructions for every surface you work on but start out with a small amount and go from there.You will be surprised what you can offer your customers with the mb-20.
If I can help in any way please feel free to call anytime.
 

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Randy Frye <rfrye@comcast.net> wrote:

Mr. Webb

 

Thanks for your comment.

 

I attended Fred's (NTC) class about 11years ago. This is what Fred suggested. It's always worked for me as well.

 

Randy

Cleaning Edge

 

From: stephen@newlifemarblerestoration.com [mailto:stephen@newlifemarblerestoration.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:56 PM


To: Restoration and Maintenance
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Green Marble

 

Last year I did some green serpintine at the ritz carlton just the way Randy discribed with great success. good luck

Stephen Webb
808 280-7387
newlifemarblerestoration.com

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:32 AM

Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Green Marble

 

Thanks Randy.

 

I have to drive over two and a half hours to this job so returning another day is something I would rather not do.

 

Is crystallizing the only way to get a nice shine? I have heard some would use a granite powder instead.

 

Jason

 

 

 

From: Randy Frye [mailto:rfrye@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 4:03 PM
To: Restoration and Maintenance
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Green Marble

 

     

Jason:

 

     Q. Any chance I can get away with not grinding or would this be too risky?

 

A.    If your resin diamonds don't chip up going over the lippage you can get away with not grinding.

 

Q.   Would I use diamonds to remove the wax or use a stripper prior?

A.   Stripper

 

Q.  I am wondering what to use to get the best shine?

A.  Work your diamonds up to at least 3500 resin, polish with a mild marble polishing compound, wait a day for the stone to dry out come back and use a quality crystallizer to bring up the shine.

        

 

        Good luck

        Randy

        Cleaning Edge, Naples, FL

 

 

From: Jason Francis [mailto:jfrancis@protocolfloorcare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 3:21 PM
To: Restoration and Maintenance
Subject: [sccpartners] Green Marble

 

Hi Guys,

 

I am hoping to get as much feedback as possible for my first green marble job. It is a bathroom 10 years old and has a couple stains. The customer has put butchers wax on on a couple occasions. It has very minor lippage. Any chance I can get away with not grinding or would this be too risky? Would I use diamonds to remove the wax or use a stripper prior? I am wondering what to use to get the best shine? I have MB-12, the new mb-20 cream for granite(curious if anyone has used), or just a tin oxide powder? The adjacent walls are also marble so I am hoping that I can get the floor dark again.

 

Thanks for your feedback,

 

Jason

 

 

 

 

 

 

Protocol
Jason Francis
Stone Restoration Pro

jfrancis@protocolfloorcare.com
333 Norton Road
Red Hook, NY 12571
tel: 845-758-6262
fax: 845-622-4886

 

 

 

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