hey guys  your all correct but keep in mind what your customer expects and make sure to inform them the results they will get. As you all know if you want a perfect floor it will need to be flat. but both the pads and powders will do the trick.

On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 9:30 AM, stuart rosen <mail@stoneshine.com> wrote:
Guys,
I have been using the velocity pads from m3.Chad and margi at m3 are good people and easy to deal with. The lowest grit velocity is a 400 but it appears to be aggressive and soft enough to get out most of the frames under "normal" circumstances.I use it after the 120or 220 resin but before the 400 grit resin to keep some clarity.I have had good results but we all know nothing is perfect.I seem to get a fair amount of use out of them.You have to hose them down really well after each use.I always explain to the customer about lippage and refinishing floors if they arent flat.Its better when they are informed and makes our job easier.So to sum it up whatever you heard about the pads they have a place in my tool box and have definitely made some jobs easier to complete.

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:34 AM, <stephen@newlifemarblerestoration.com> wrote:
FYI, I just got about 3000 SF honing marble and gold limestone with one Spinflex pad from Concrete polishing solutions under 50 bucks (before shipping). Both new installs but very uneven finishes. The yellow seems to be my most used grit. I also just did some lippage removal and went to the yellow pad right after 220 grit resins.  Aloha
Stephen Webb
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----- Original Message -----
From: rod medel
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:40 PM
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Color enhancer sealer

Hey Stuart what do you think about those monkey pads??
 
I had a trav floor that I took from polish to hone and it had some good lippage so the frames were tough to get down we used a combo of diamonds acid then sandpaper then honing powder but alot of hand work,but anyhow I was thinking of using a 220 monkey pad but I didn't realize the cost 75.00 for one pad and I'm not sure about how much life they get and since I haden't used them this was not the house to try them out, so I stuck with the honing powder came out great just took about 6 hrs longer than it should have.
 
I realize these pads don't provide much clarity and would not use them to try to achieve clarity before polishing but do they have their purpose for honing?
 
Any feedback from you guys would be great.

--- On Thu, 1/22/09, stuart rosen <mail@stoneshine.com> wrote:
From: stuart rosen <mail@stoneshine.com>

Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Color enhancer sealer
To: "Restoration and Maintenance" <sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>
Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 5:28 PM

Zev,
if the honed jg floor has color enhancer buildup it was over or misapplied.use 280 grit honing powder to remove the excess go slow and right to the edge.test a small area and check the result.check the color of the gout and if its sanded or not.take action so you dont turn them white.clean off your test area and if its looks good get the ok to complete the job from the customer.talk to customer about sealing. charge accordingly.chemicals may be needed but hopefully not.150 and 180 grit honong powder will pretty much take most sealer residue off a surface if you need it.Then you can finish the floor with a 280 or 400 powder(most uniform)or one of those monkey pad things(quicker sometimes)if the finish is acceptable to the client.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 7:31 PM, rod medel <rodsuperiorstone@yahoo.com> wrote:
I agree with the same sealer and reactivate thing but again when you do this make sure all residue is removed otherwise your in the same boat.Most likely it has around a 400 grit finish a little clarity low sheen if thats the case I can see the reason to use color enhancer but if it's polished it's pointless, again imho....


--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Don Semi <don@srsdenver.com> wrote:

> From: Don Semi <don@srsdenver.com>
> Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Color enhancer sealer
> To: "Restoration and Maintenance" <sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 4:28 PM
> Zev: As suggested, go get the same sealant and it should
> break it down and
> come off. All of the suggestions will work though.
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 4:12 PM,
> <zev@stonerestorationplus.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi I went down to look at the floor and some of the
> tiles looked like
> > they were polished. The color enhancer that they used
> was from
> > STONE   TECH PROFFESIONAL RICH   COLOR ENHANCER
> SEALER. I hope this
> > helps.
> >
> > On 1/22/09, Marble Maestro
> <777-7797@videotron.ca> wrote:
> > > Both are great suggestions.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Without knowing what product it is, its difficult
> to be exact.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I would be interested to know which it is.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Some of the sealers such as SIM from Lithofin,
> you can reapply some
> > sealer
> > > on the surface, allow it to work its way in,
> agitate it with a red pad
> > and
> > > remove it as you would as if you had just sealed
> it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Every Impregnator has a different way to apply
> and to "remove", you have
> > to
> > > find the ones you are comfortable with.  Color
> enhancing especially is
> > not
> > > a
> > > natural process and not as easy to do as they let
> you think.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Anthony Masecchia
> > >
> > > Master Stone Consultant
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Marble Maestro tm
> > >
> > > 6615 Papineau
> > >
> > > Montreal Quebec
> > >
> > > H2G 2X3
> > >
> > > 514-777-7797
> > >
> > > 514-904-1815
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > www.777-7797.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   _____
> > >
> > > From: rivera.gm@gmail.com
> [mailto:rivera.gm@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> > Georgia
> > > Rivera
> > > Sent: January 22, 2009 3:45 PM
> > > To: Restoration and Maintenance
> > > Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Color enhancer sealer
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have used acetone and a pad to remove color
> enhancer.  It won't change
> > > the
> > > finish but you might have to reseal afterward
> with an impregnating
> > sealer.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:35 PM, rod medel
> <rodsuperiorstone@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Honing powder.... grit will depend on the finish
> i would do a 220 or 400
> > > mb's powder is awesome.I have just found
> doing the stripper,cleaner the
> > > masking just isn't worth it when you are
> going to have to use honing
> > powder
> > > when done anyway.
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Zev Guez
> <zev@stonerestorationplus.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Zev Guez
> <zev@stonerestorationplus.com>
> > > Subject: [sccpartners] Color enhancer sealer
> > > To: "Restoration and Maintenance"
> <sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>
> > > Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 8:17 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi I am going today to look at a honed jerusalem
> gold limestone that was
> > > color enhanced and the customer said that in some
> areas there is a builup
> > > and residue. What would be the best way to remove
> it .
> > >
> > > --
> > > Zev Guez
> > > Stone Restoration Plus
> > > (732) 309-3878
> > > www.stonerestorationplus.com
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