Looks great Baird.  I like to use dry diamonds in the first few steps so you can really see what you are doing, 100, 200 dry then 400/800 wet.  Dust shroud gets in the way and if you go at a low speed it dosent kick up too much (except for step 1). You can keep a vac next to your work area so it dosent add up where going over it will kick it up in the air.

 

From: Baird Standish [mailto:bairdstandish@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:47 AM
To: Restoration and Maintenance
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Edge issues-light and dark

 

Here are some before and after photos.  The first photo is a close up of the edge deterioration before we did the job.  You can see how we were able to get rid of the picture framing that occurred as a result of the water damage etc.  Started with 50 metals. Went up to 200 grit and then finished with a series of velocity pads up to 3000. Primarily used our Klindex Levighitor 600 with the 9 head planetario . Used our small Hawk for some of the edge work.
B

Inline image 1  Inline image 2 Inline image 4 Inline image 5 Inline image 3







On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:07 PM, K. Hudson <klhudson16@comcast.net> wrote:

Any photos of the finished product?

 

K Hudson

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On Apr 11, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Baird Standish <bairdstandish@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Again.  I don't know why I have always relied exclusively on diamond pads for edges.  The sand paper was much easier to work with and didn't create swirl marks.  Also, although we gave the surface of the floor a honed finish, by polishing the edges it dressed them up a bit and made it so we didn't have to exactly match the honed finish on the rest of the floor.  The mineral spirits and a little boiled linseed oil also worked well.  For many of the fissures that were created by the subefflourescence that could not be ground away we used grout perfect color seal that we matched pretty closely to the color of the tile. from 3 feet, its hard to tell the difference.
B

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:59 PM, john jackson <kcstoneguy@yahoo.com> wrote:

i have used that dust shroud sold by cd larue for over 5 years, it fits on a 7 inch grinder and works incredible well.. It does not lock down on the floor like other shrouds. they just came out with a 4 inch one, and i plan to buy that one as well..those plastic ones alot of people sell are pure unadulterated worthless junk..The metal band cuts through the plastic and the screws vibrate out. I have my shroud on a variable speed milwaukee grinder and it is one of my favorite tools to use. To properly use the black dry vac sold by dustless technologies, you need to also buy their clothe dust bag as well, otherwise the dust will collect on the canvas filter and you will lose all the vaccum lift. you should still wear a dust mask as well..We used to dry grind and polish concrete, i am well verse on the subject dust , believe me..That is why whenever possible i wet grind..

 

by the way, several companies recently came out with a powder you can add to the slurry, which turns it into a gel so the slurry can just be bagged up..you just add it to your slurry in your wet vac.

 

From: "flooramor@aim.com" <flooramor@aim.com>


To: Restoration and Maintenance <sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>

Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 3:47 PM


Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Edge issues-light and dark

 

Might also try contacting Sherwin Williams. I know they sell the Dustless HEPA vac. They may have some accessories like the shrouds.

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From: stuart rosen <mail@stoneshine.com>

Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:43:23 -0500

To: Restoration and Maintenance<sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>

ReplyTo: "Restoration and Maintenance" <sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>

Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Edge issues-light and dark

 

Yes I forget the exact name but Gran quartz has them. Its s shroud around the angle grinder that has vacuum attachment.

On Mar 30, 2012 2:05 PM, <flooramor@aim.com> wrote:

Baird,

Dust buddy is a shroud that attaches to some hand grinders and perhaps some polishers. You attach that to a true HEPA vacuum to keep the dust down to a minimum.

Google Dust Buddy but I think the website is Dustless something or other.

J

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From: Baird Standish <bairdstandish@gmail.com>

Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:58:53 -0400

To: Restoration and Maintenance<sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>

ReplyTo: "Restoration and Maintenance" <sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>

Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Edge issues-light and dark

 

Thanks guys. This edge work is a pain in the butt. Stuart, what is a dust buddy?  You mean like a dirt devil kind of thing?
B

On Friday, March 30, 2012, stuart rosen <mail@stoneshine.com> wrote:
> Baird,
> I agree with John-that is a profile created by a scratch pattern related to blending in those edges.
> This happens to all of us in one form or another on large grinding jobs.When the floor is wet everything looks great!
> Anyway like John says its hands and knees time. From what I see on that floor you may want to go dry using sandpaper like 80g /120g/220g or a combination using resin diamonds as well. What ever gets you to be able to eliminate the profile.
> If you use a dust buddy you can work fast and bang this out.Once you figure out which grits and or process will remove the profile you can finish it off with the floor machine and the honing powder or the same abrasive you finished the body of the floor with.Working in that manner may save you some time. Five inch sandpaper should work well for you in this case. Good luck.
>  
>  
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:13 AM, John Freitag <jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> wrote:
>
> Baird,
>
>  
>
> >From the pictures I don’t think this is a sealer issue. I feel it a honing issue. From the pictures it appears you honed up to and within 3 to 4 inches of the edge, were these areas hand honed?
>
> It appears you are leaving this floor at a low honed finish and the edges still have the original finish left on the stone. As I look at these pictures you can see where the honing was as the scratches for the honing with a floor machine has never been blended into the edges.
>
>  
>
> Regarding the linseed oil and mineral spirits if anyone uses this mixture be careful as to how you handle the applicator after you finish the job, just don’t throw this in you truck. Linseed oil has a low very low flash point and unless you soak the applicator in water with some type cleaner you can run a HIGH RISK of catching a truck , your warehouse or wherever this applicator end up on FIRE !!!
>
>  
>
> I know of several people including myself early on in my stone career that have burnt up trucks.  CAUTION  CAUTION when using this mixture.
>
>  
>
> So Baird I would recommend you go back and do some hand work with diamonds and I think you will see these edges blend in.
>
>  
>
>  
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