Hi Mike. I have never cut marble dry although I cut concrete dry all the time. But for concrete I go wet with the low diamonds and dry with the high ones. You have to go dry after staining or the stain will wash out. Anyway, my klinDex has a nice metal housing with a hose connection that handles the dust pretty well. I particularly like the idea of going dry around edges which have become the bane of my existence lately. I really need to master the edge thing without wasting so much time. When honing dry do you use the same 4min per 10 sf formula as usual? With the Klindex/planetario set up, because it only goes in a straight line, I go up and back once with resins and twice with metals. But I have rarely used metals on marble. It takes about 30-45 seconds to cut a 10 foot by say 12" path (1 up no back), and I overlap by 3-4 inches on the path one over. So I would say the Klindex cuts the honing time way down but the set up is tedious as is the 220 power requirement and the machine is just to big and cumbersome for most residential use. great for a big lobby though.
On Wednesday, April 11, 2012, Mike Marsoun <nulifesc@bigpond.com> wrote:
> Looks great Baird. I like to use dry diamonds in the first few steps so you can really see what you are doing, 100, 200 dry then 400/800 wet. Dust shroud gets in the way and if you go at a low speed it dosent kick up too much (except for step 1). You can keep a vac next to your work area so it dosent add up where going over it will kick it up in the air.
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> Here are some before and after photos. The first photo is a close up of the edge deterioration before we did the job. You can see how we were able to get rid of the picture framing that occurred as a result of the water damage etc. Started with 50 metals. Went up to 200 grit and then finished with a series of velocity pads up to 3000. Primarily used our Klindex Levighitor 600 with the 9 head planetario . Used our small Hawk for some of the edge work.
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> On Apr 11, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Baird Standish <bairdstandish@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Thanks Again. I don't know why I have always relied exclusively on diamond pads for edges. The sand paper was much easier to work with and didn't create swirl marks. Also, although we gave the surface of the floor a honed finish, by polishing the edges it dressed them up a bit and made it so we didn't have to exactly match the honed finish on the rest of the floor. The mineral spirits and a little boiled linseed oil also worked well. For many of the fissures that were created by the subefflourescence that could not be ground away we used grout perfect color seal that we matched pretty closely to the color of the tile. from 3 feet, its hard to tell the difference.
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> i have used that dust shroud sold by cd larue for over 5 years, it fits on a 7 inch grinder and works incredible well.. It does not lock down on the floor like other shrouds. they just came out with a 4 inch one, and i plan to buy that one as well..those plastic ones alot of people sell are pure unadulterated worthless junk..The metal band cuts through the plastic and the screws vibrate out. I have my shroud on a variable speed milwaukee grinder and it is one of my favorite tools to use. To properly use the black dry vac sold by dustless technologies, you need to also buy their clothe dust bag as well, otherwise the dust will collect on the canvas filter and you will lose all the vaccum lift. you should still wear a dust mask as well..We used to dry grind and polish concrete, i am well verse on the subject dust , believe me..That is why whenever possible i wet grind..
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