The one thing that annoys me about the pads is that they all use the same series of colors for coding, but the colors do not correspond to the same grits. As an example, I have green dot pads from more than one manufacturer and they range from 3000 grit to 11000. I have a hard time keeping it all straight. The web sites do not always help much. Why can't they just print the grits right on the pad instead of having to refer to a secret chart? Reminds me of the Marx Brothers' tuttsi fruitsi ice cream routine
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On Sep 15, 2012, at 9:38 AM, "John Freitag" <jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> wrote:

The problem with the stiffer pad is they will not get into the corners of the picture framing as well as a softer pad. Yes you will go through a few more pads but if you have pictures framing that is tough to remove the softer pad and the honing powders will go into the areas much easier than a stiff pad.

 

 

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From: Michael Marsoun [mailto:nulifesc@bigpond.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:53 PM
To: Stone and Tile PROS Technical Support
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Resin Pads

 

Those cps pads are great but they are stiff. Seems like the stuff pads last longer than the hog hair backed diamond pads. I like pads because they are cleaner and all you vacuum up is the sanding slurry, never have to worry about staining a dark grout. I agree both have their place. 

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On 14/09/2012, at 8:38 AM, stuart rosen <mail@stoneshine.com> wrote:

I have done both and both work well. I agree that the honing powder is probably more economical while the abrasive pad may be quicker. If we need more flex we just place a white pad between the driver and grit pad.
Cant say one is better than the other.
Would leave that up to the company and the tech.

On Sep 13, 2012 5:51 PM, "Eric - DGG" <eric@dirtygroutguys.com> wrote:

   John, haven't done either method, I was just intrigued with the idea. But just theoretically, I like the monkey pad idea as being a bit more convenient, by only having to add water, not having to stop for powder. But if honing powder delivers better results, I surely have nothing against that.

 

 
Eric Lewis, Technical Mgr

DirtyGroutGuys.com
West Chester, PA 19380

 

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 5:43 PM, John Freitag <jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> wrote:

Eric,

 

Why do you not want to use honing powders??  Honing powders are more cost effect than the monkey pads and deliver the same result and you can use honing powder with white hog hair or other pads that will go deeper into the corner of the stone to remove the picture framing .

 

 

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The Stone & Tile School

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From: subewl@gmail.com [mailto:subewl@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Eric - DGG


Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:05 AM

To: Stone and Tile PROS Technical Support

Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Resin Pads

 

   Again, 220, then monkey pad, then 400. Stu's got all the tricks.

 

 
Eric Lewis, Technical Mgr

DirtyGroutGuys.com
West Chester, PA 19380

 

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 7:57 AM, stuart rosen <mail@stoneshine.com> wrote:

Oops-sorry yes jamie is right diamond impregnated pads-we use 220/400 grit from cps-they are concrete pads but work well in place of honing powder. They seem faster and easier to use to remove picture frames. We can run them befor our 220 cut or between 220 and 400 diamonds.They also work well in honing applications.

 

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 7:02 AM, J. Palacio <flooramor@aim.com> wrote:

I think he means diamond impregnated pads, Twister, Monkey, etc pads. 


On Sep 12, 2012, at 7:50 AM, "Pat Staples" <cpstaples@msn.com> wrote:

Stuart,

 Can you explain this a little better "use coarse fiber pads to remove picture frames"

 

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Classic Marble & Stone Restoration
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 10:09 PM

Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Resin Pads

 

I think it has to do with surface pressure-15 cu in compared to 12 cu in  of cutting surface. Theoretically 4 would cut better,they will also wear faster. Cant say I have noticed any difference in finishes whether you run five or four diamonds. I like to run four diamonds on our machines even on larger pad drivers.For me its just easier to place four diamonds on the pad driver than five. Our machines run about 130/135 lbs we run spacers on our diamonds and use coarse fiber pads to remove picture frames.

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:30 PM, John Freitag <jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> wrote:

Tony ,

 

There is really no  difference, I prefer the cut you get with 5 pad .

 

Why do you want to weight your machine. Are you cutting lippage? This si the only time I recommend weight and then I only recommend 20 to  25 pounds depending upon the stone.

 

In normal honing, by adding weight will do two things,  1. Wear out diamond faster diamonds are made to cut weight wears out diamonds. 2 you will increase the amount of picture framing.

 

 

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The Stone & Tile School

Office 407-567-7652

Cell 407-615-0134

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From: Tony Warney [mailto:tony@excelstoneandtilecare.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 12:46 PM


To: Stone and Tile PROS Technical Support
Subject: [sccpartners] Resin Pads

 

I have been hearing that using 4 3 inch diamond resin pads cuts faster than 5.  Is this true and why?  Also does anyone have any ideas on how to make your own weighted plate for a floor machine?




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