John had an old set of pads. I can tell you that these pads are going to blow away the industry. In addition they have a new floor machine which is a random orbital called The Beast. I witness two days ago the following. They took 100 grit metal bond diamonds to rough up the surface of a black absolute floor. they than went through three steps at at rate of 15 seconds per step per square foot and then polished with a 11000 grit monkey pad wet to dry. Now you guys know how much of a skeptic I can be...I was totally blown away . they not only got a factory finish on black absolute but the clarity was incredible.On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Justin <justin@jmcstoneandtilecare.com> wrote:
I'm just curious John why the change of mind on these pads. In your class you were pretty vocal about not using the cheetah and monkey pads.
Sent from my iPhoneCurrently we have these pads in our training center and have seen some of the same test Fred has seen and there are pretty unique. I just the other day received my shipment in and will be testing these pads on numerous stone including granite to see the results. Will let you know as we complete out testing and compare the result. I have been impress with what I have seen so far.
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There is also a new system out there that I just saw that is incredible, two steps on marble and three steps on black absolute. The system is Cheetah Pads
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:14 PM, stuart rosen <mail@stoneshine.com> wrote:
Carl-is that stone hard-or soft.
Are the hard to polish spots soft?
we get all sorts of wacky stuff to polish.
Hertron makes a hardening agent and a calcium product along with a crystallizer that may work without steel wool-although the steel wool gives it better results.
The products are prime grind #2 the hardner
product A which is the calcium product and product M.
I know it sounds a bit odd but it works.
If you let the stone dry out before using the M component which is the crystallizer. You may be able to use steel wool with out getting any black marks. If you do get some of those black marks a little polishing compound will take them out.
The Burnisher with a 11000 grit pad sounds like the easiest option however.
Have you ever used Vortex pads-they have a 4 pad system that actually works.
I mean you cant compare it to a powder polish but it may get you off the job.
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:21 AM, cpstaples@msn.com <cpstaples@msn.com> wrote:
Will look and see if anyone rents 1
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use an electric burnisher
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:54 AM, cpstaples@msn.com <cpstaples@msn.com> wrote:
That's a thought but I don't know if the condo association will let me bring a burnisher in here
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might want to try a burnisher with a 11000 grit Monkey pad
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:24 AM, cpstaples@msn.com <cpstaples@msn.com> wrote:
I'm trying everything in my bag of tricks, yours and Johns, they polished it in the factory so I'm trying to get a duplication or something close to it
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Date: Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:52 am
in that case im not sure it can be polished
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:42 PM, cpstaples@msn.com <cpstaples@msn.com> wrote:
Not sure if you can see it in this picture, but there are white crystal spots in the tile that won't polish. I tried 5 X, granite powder wet and also ran them dry, also tried to crystallize on top. Can't get these spots to Polish. Has anybody ran across this material and any suggestions would be appreciated. I have no idea what the name of the Marble is.
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