John had an old set of pads. I can tell you that these pads are going to
blow away the industry. In addition they have a new floor machine which is
a random orbital called The Beast. I witness two days ago the following.
They took 100 grit metal bond diamonds to rough up the surface of a black
absolute floor. they than went through three steps at at rate of 15 seconds
per step per square foot and then polished with a 11000 grit monkey pad wet
to dry. Now you guys know how much of a skeptic I can be...I was totally
blown away . they not only got a factory finish on black absolute but the
clarity was incredible.

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Justin wrote:

> I'm just curious John why the change of mind on these pads. In your class
> you were pretty vocal about not using the cheetah and monkey pads.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jun 28, 2013, at 7:02 AM, "John Freitag" <
> jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> wrote:
>
> Currently we have these pads in our training center and have seen some of
> the same test Fred has seen and there are pretty unique. I just the other
> day received my shipment in and will be testing these pads on numerous
> stone including granite to see the results. Will let you know as we
> complete out testing and compare the result. I have been impress with what

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> *From:* Fred Hueston [mailto:fhueston@gmail.com ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 27, 2013 3:19 PM
> *To:* Stone and Tile PROS Technical Support
> *Subject:* RE: [sccpartners] Re: [sccpartners] Re: [sccpartners] Re:
> [sccpart****
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>
> There is also a new system out there that I just saw that is incredible,
> two steps on marble and three steps on black absolute. The system is

> Cheetah Pads ****
>
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>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:14 PM, stuart rosen wrote:
> ****
>
> Carl-is that stone hard-or soft.****
>
> Are the hard to polish spots soft?****
>
> we get all sorts of wacky stuff to polish.****
>
> ****

>
> Hertron makes a hardening agent and a calcium product along with a
> crystallizer that may work without steel wool-although the steel wool gives

> it better results.****
>
> The products are prime grind #2 the hardner****
>
> product A which is the calcium product and product M.****
>
> I know it sounds a bit odd but it works.****

>
> If you let the stone dry out before using the M component which is the
> crystallizer. You may be able to use steel wool with out getting any black
> marks. If you do get some of those black marks a little polishing compound

> will take them out.****
>
> ****

>
> The Burnisher with a 11000 grit pad sounds like the easiest option however.

> ****

>
> Have you ever used Vortex pads-they have a 4 pad system that actually

> works.****

>
> I mean you cant compare it to a powder polish but it may get you off the

> job.****
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>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:21 AM, cpstaples@msn.com

> wrote:****

>
> Will look and see if anyone rents 1
>

> Sent from my HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint!****

>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Fred Hueston"

> To: "Stone and Tile PROS Technical Support" <
> sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>
> Subject: [sccpartners] Re: [sccpartners] Re: [sccpartners] No subject

> Date: Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:58 am****
>
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> use an electric burnisher****
>
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>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:54 AM, cpstaples@msn.com

> wrote:****

>
> That's a thought but I don't know if the condo association will let me
> bring a burnisher in here
>

> Sent from my HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint!****

>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Fred Hueston"

> To: "Stone and Tile PROS Technical Support" <
> sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>
> Subject: [sccpartners] Re: [sccpartners] No subject

> Date: Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:39 am****
>
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> might want to try a burnisher with a 11000 grit Monkey pad****
>
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>
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:24 AM, cpstaples@msn.com

> wrote:****

>
> I'm trying everything in my bag of tricks, yours and Johns, they polished
> it in the factory so I'm trying to get a duplication or something close to
> it
>

> Sent from my HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint!****

>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Fred Hueston"

> To: "Stone and Tile PROS Technical Support" <
> sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>
> Subject: [sccpartners] No subject

> Date: Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:52 am****
>
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>
> in that case im not sure it can be polished****
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>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:42 PM, cpstaples@msn.com

> wrote:****

>
> Not sure if you can see it in this picture, but there are white crystal
> spots in the tile that won't polish. I tried 5 X, granite powder wet and
> also ran them dry, also tried to crystallize on top. Can't get these spots
> to Polish. Has anybody ran across this material and any suggestions would
> be appreciated. I have no idea what the name of the Marble is.
>

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