John,

Whatever happened to the brushes you were testing as well? Never heard about that again...

J

On Jul 9, 2013, at 12:16 PM, John Freitag wrote:

Stu,
Will be testing starting today, and throughout this week. From the demo I have seen so far they are quite remarkable .
 
 
John E Freitag
Director
The Stone & Tile School
Office 407-567-7652
Cell 407-615-0134
 
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From: rosen.stuart@gmail.com [mailto:rosen.stuart@gmail.com] On Behalf Of stuart rosen
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 7:55 AM
To: Stone and Tile PROS Technical Support
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Wow-This product sounds amazing-is there anything they don't do!

 

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Dana Kothrade <dana@innovativesurfacesolutions.com> wrote:
John, 
 
The Cheetahs you have are the 23rd generation and are called Cheetah Pucks so they don't get confused with the original pad style Cheetahs. These NEW Cheetah Pucks come in 3" and 5" versions and are 15mm thick. They're HUGE. 
 
The Cheetah Pucks are a 4 step restoration system followed by a quick polishing with an 11,000 grit Monkey Pad if you want to go for a full mechanical polish. If you want to use the Cheetah Pucks with your favorite acidic polishing powder or paste, most marbles can be polished after using step 2. 
 
Here's the grit range of each Cheetah Puck
 
Step-1
Can remove lippage on soft stones, replaces 100 metal, 50,100,200,400 resin bond diamond discs. Even though they aggressively remove surface material, even step-1 shows minimal if any visible scratch pattern. 
 
Step-2
Removes moderate damage and/or preps the surface for powder polishing.  Replaces  200,400, 800,1500 resin bond diamond discs. 
 
Step-3
Removes scratch pattern from step-2 and preps the surface for powder polishing problematic marbles or before step-4 Cheetah Puck  for full mechanical polish. 
Replaces resin bond diamond discs 800,1800,3500,8000. 
 
Step-4
Final step in full mechanical restoration before final polishing with 11,000 Monkey Pad. Replaces resin bond diamond discs 1800,3500,5000,8000,10,000 and beyond. 
 
Cheetahs span multiple grits with each step by releasing abrasive material to open and close the pad face. They sense the level of surface wear/damage and start off cutting aggressively but smooth out quickly as the damage is removed. 
 
For people skilled at powder polishing, its an incredibly efficient restoration if you just do Cheetah Puck Step-2 to remove traffic wear and etching then powder polish with a 5x or similar product with an 11,000 Monkey Pad and you're done. USE LESS POWDER POLISH THAN NORMAL OR YOU'LL OVER POLISH AND ORANGE PEEL THE STONE. If this process is done correctly it happens quickly, its easy to over polish. For even better clarity on problematic marbles, follow step-2 with step-3 before powder polishing. 
 
Hope this helps. 
 
We are launching the New Cheetah Pucks this month. More pics, videos and instructions coming soon. 
 
These NEW Cheetah Pucks work on granite, marble, travertine, limestone, polished concrete, terrazzo and porcelain tile. 
 
 
Here's an after shot of the reflection of an old stained glass window where the Pucks were used to restore and polish the floors for The Queen of England before a big celebration in the UK last week. 
 
The clarity you can achieve with the new Cheetah Pucks is far beyond the original factory polish especially on difficult stones that don't like a mechanical polish or that orange peel easily. 
 
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Respectfully,
 
Dana Kothrade
CEO/Director of R&D
Innovative Surface Solutions
Office 760-738-4537


On Jul 8, 2013, at 10:53 AM, "John Freitag" <jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> wrote:

The pads I have are a different set up they are actual pads more like a 5 inch diamond pad.
Will be doing some testing this week.
 
 
John E Freitag
Director
The Stone & Tile School
Office 407-567-7652
 
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From: Randy Frye [mailto:rfrye@comcast.net] 
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 1:42 PM
To: Stone and Tile PROS Technical Support
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] [sccpartners] Re: [sccpartners] Re: [sccpart
 
 
Pictures here, This is the site I just bought from
 
Randy Frye
 
 
 
On Jun 29, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Justin wrote:

 

John 
Can you send pics of these new pads
 
Thanks

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On Jun 29, 2013, at 7:20 AM, "John Freitag" <jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> wrote:

From what I have seen so far with these diamond this would not be a problem. Further testing will tell the story
 
 
John E Freitag
Director
The Stone & Tile School
Office 407-567-7652
 
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From: Perfect Marble 2 [mailto:dayron.padilla13@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 5:39 PM
To: Stone and Tile PROS Technical Support
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Re: [sccpartners] Re: [sccpartners] Re: [sccpart
 
Would like to try it on this project
 
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Dayron Padilla
Perfect Marble
 


On Jun 28, 2013, at 3:45 PM, "John Freitag" <jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> wrote:

These are new type and designed pads.
Will be doing more testing in the week to come , just received my new pads in
 
john
 
From: Justin [mailto:justin@jmcstoneandtilecare.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 1:25 PM
To: Stone and Tile PROS Technical Support
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You guys that are using them now what are your opinions on the pads. Why you like using them, or why you don't like them. 
Thanks

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 28, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Justin <justin@jmcstoneandtilecare.com> wrote:

I'm just curious John why the change of mind on these pads. In your class you were pretty vocal about not using the cheetah and monkey pads. 

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On Jun 28, 2013, at 7:02 AM, "John Freitag" <jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> wrote:

Currently we have these pads in our training center and have seen some of the same test Fred has seen and there are pretty unique. I just the other day received my shipment in and will be testing these pads on numerous stone including granite to see the results. Will let you know as we complete out testing and compare the result. I have been impress with what I have seen so far.
 
 
John E Freitag
Director
The Stone & Tile School
Office 407-567-7652
 
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From: Fred Hueston [mailto:fhueston@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 3:19 PM
To: Stone and Tile PROS Technical Support
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Re: [sccpartners] Re: [sccpartners] Re: [sccpart
 
There is also a new system out there that I just saw that is incredible, two steps on marble and three steps on black absolute. The system is Cheetah Pads 

 

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:14 PM, stuart rosen <mail@stoneshine.com> wrote:
Carl-is that stone hard-or soft.
Are the hard to polish spots soft?
we get all sorts of wacky stuff to polish.
 
Hertron makes a hardening agent and a calcium product along with a crystallizer that may work without steel wool-although the steel wool gives it better results.
The products are prime grind #2 the hardner
product A which is the calcium product and product M.
I know it sounds a bit odd but it works.
If you let the stone dry out before using the M component which is the crystallizer. You may be able to use steel wool with out getting any black marks. If you do get some of those black marks a little polishing compound will take them out.
 
The Burnisher with a 11000 grit pad sounds like the easiest option however.
Have you ever used Vortex pads-they have a 4 pad system that actually works.
I mean you cant compare it to a powder polish but it may get you off the job.

 

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:21 AM,cpstaples@msn.com <cpstaples@msn.com> wrote:

Will look and see if anyone rents 1

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Date: Thu, Jun 27, 2013 9:58 am

 
use an electric burnisher

 

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:54 AM,cpstaples@msn.com <cpstaples@msn.com> wrote:

That's a thought but I don't know if the condo association will let me bring a burnisher in here

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might want to try a burnisher with a 11000 grit Monkey pad

 

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:24 AM,cpstaples@msn.com <cpstaples@msn.com> wrote:

I'm trying everything in my bag of tricks, yours and Johns, they polished it in the factory so I'm trying to get a duplication or something close to it

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Date: Thu, Jun 27, 2013 8:52 am

 
in that case im not sure it can be polished

 

On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:42 PM,cpstaples@msn.com <cpstaples@msn.com> wrote:

Not sure if you can see it in this picture, but there are white crystal spots in the tile that won't polish. I tried 5 X, granite powder wet and also ran them dry, also tried to crystallize on top. Can't get these spots to Polish. Has anybody ran across this material and any suggestions would be appreciated. I have no idea what the name of the Marble is.

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