Ive said this a hundred times and Ill say it again. The industry is changing and you will have to change with it to stay alive. For example if you were a pager company and didnt change your ways you will loose business to the cell phone companys. How many pager companies are around today? I hate to admit it but stone refinishing and polishing is getting easier and easier and you are going to see more and more carpet cleaners and janitorial companies getting into the business.  So what you need to do is specialize in something they cant do, For example repair work, etc. You have to think outside the box and you cant blame the Cheetah Pads or others for making it easier. This is just the facts of the business.


On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Pat Staples <cpstaples@msn.com> wrote:
I just lost a job to a guy from Plainsfield NJ. He came down to south jersey and priced out a church, 4,000 St Ft refinish (50-120-400) polish and apply penatraiting sealer @ $2.00 St Ft. There was a lot of masking necessary because of all the pews and alter steps/risers.
I can do it for that but I am not sending the guys out working for wages and I am trying to keep the pricing up.
Let them do it for that price.
We have plenty of work to keep our crews busy
 
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Carl Staples
Classic Marble & Stone Restoration
www.Marblerestore.com
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Pat- South Florida pricing is very suppressed. That type of pricing is really low.
Tough to run a business with that type of competition-we have seen it happen up here as well.
Even if the new management isn't happy with the new companies results and wants to switch back. Chances are they probably wont pay the rate prior to the change.
We see this happening on a lessor scale in the northeast but we still have the carpet cleaner doing stone refinishing with easier systems like diamond impregnated pads and others. Their pricing is lower and comparatively so are the results.
While it hasn't seemed to affect us as much as in other areas of the country it may in the future.
I don't think it is the products as much as it is the marketing for those products.
We use diamond impregnated pads for different variations of finishes of honed surfaces.
I think it just misrepresents industry results to inexperienced contractors.
Maybe I am wrong, but looking at the marketing and advertising from these companies all shows these systems are cheaper, faster and easier to use than traditional methods.
Dana please don't take this the wrong way but why would you feel sad selling products to companies like that.
Give us a little more credit than that, you are after all in business to sell product.
 
 


On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Pat Staples <cpstaples@msn.com> wrote:
Where is the other company from????


On Jul 28, 2013, at 8:00 AM, Dayron <dayron@perfectmarblefloors.com> wrote:

> Listen to this gang and the problems I face here in this armpit of America ( why armpit cause it stinks)
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> Bid a building which we had serviced for more than 14yrs but new management arrived the winning bid was @ $.90. For restoration and grout cleaning. (I was way over).
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> My guys on the inside of this job let me go to the site when they where working.  First with a blade they removed some of the grout,then they used cheetah pads ( nothing against the pads heck I used them ) and the slurry which is left while grinding was used to fill grout.  Then they crystallize the crap out of it.  It's just sad to see what goes for restoration and what people who call themselves true craftsman
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