Mike,thank you for the suggestions. That's great advice I'm taking to heart. I'm getting together with my team to map out the video including your suggestions and some factual technical data from us as well as third party testing by experienced contractors such as yourselves and I'm very interested to see johns results as well.The video will not be a marketing pitch. A fact based documentary style of how this came to be to start off and how we work directly with experienced contractors from all over the world to develop the next generations so quickly. Its absolutely in no way the result of my efforts solely but a product of many intelligent experienced stone craftsmen all working together to create a tool they can all use to get the results they are after but with less headaches, more versatility and in less time while being duplicatable enough that you will never be held hostage by an employee if his replacement takes a very very short apprenticeship due to the simplicity of the Cheetahs.Thanks again for the advice. Please share any other ideas you guys have, after all the whole point of this video and the whole Cheetah System is to help you guys by giving you effective efficient tools for your stone restoration businesses.
Respectfully,Dana KothradeCEO/Director of R&DInnovative Surface SolutionsOffice 760-738-4537
On Aug 15, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Mike Marsoun <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:So many questions with this product. I know Dana is working on writing up a protocol for the use. I think the best thing that could be done, to answer all the questions is a video. The first part should be a non hyped history of the product, clarifying the past versions and discussing the current version. Almost like a documentary. Then showing how to use the new version. If someone can SEE a floor being done, with no pause in the recording, that would end all doubt. For now it is all hearsay and that depends heavily on the person. We all respect Fred and John tremendously and that is valuable testimony, but seeing is believing. I personally can't wait to try them out!
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On 16/08/2013, at 5:26 AM, "John Freitag" <email@example.com> wrote:
Our testing will be done both commercial and residential, seeing we have the service side of our business we have the opportunities to test in our training facility but to also test on our commercial maintenance properties and test when we are doing residential jobs. Our testing is not restricted to the our training facility.
John E Freitag
The Stone & Tile School
Now that would be great. To many times test are done but not true on the field test ie office building etc
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On Aug 14, 2013, at 1:28 PM, "Hector Castillo" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
Hello Pro Partners
I think I John is too busy, they should send out the puck for the testing to any member for 1Day and let us send them the feed back?
Information would have to be in formation that all of us can see how the testing was done.
I think any new item needs to be field tested and proven by all of us that want to test new items.
I would like feedback from any SCCpartners.
Thank you for sharing your experience! John, I understand that you have been extremely busy however, is their any updates on the Cheetah Pucks. Thanks.
N- Motion Stone and Tile
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On Aug 14, 2013, at 10:30 AM, propartner ken <email@example.com> wrote:
Ken De Melis
I have to chime in on all the conversations about monkey pads and cheetah pucks
and all the MARKETING HYPE about this stuff. back in january or december i fianally
decided to try some of DANA,S monkey pads and cheetah pads/pucks on a project
i had coming up so i spent about 600 buck purchasing the full set of eight inch monkey
pads 200,400,800,1500,3000,8000,11000 and also the full set of 8 inch cheetah pads
they are more like an 8 inch puck to me.
the 200 grit monkey pad in a shower were a dismal disappointment they did not have any value in that experience so back
on the shelf in the trailer it went.
same shower 8 inch cheetah puck this did resurface the wall and i went thru the whole set to see the results and it was just ok.
but when i used a regular 200,400,800.1800 grit 8 inch turbo diamond pad from stone care central that cost me only 25 bucks each
i got a faster result and a better looking finish on the same travertine shower
i have had some jobs where the monkey and or twister pads have been ok to use and got the desired results always a honed only or a high hone only finish they are in my opinion only good for that type of finish because they lack the CLARITY and REFLECTION that true professionals require of polish stone work.. why anyone thinks the cheetah pads a the second coming of easy better faster is certainly not what i experience in any of my testing results and i don't appreciate DANA coming on to HYPE product that is no better than what we have all used in the past. has anyone noticed the new pucks look more and more like resins mounted to a 3 m pad. i velcro 3 inch
diamonds to hogs hair pads all the time and it works great to ride over lippage too. why spend more money for a poorer quality outcome
since they are on generation 22 or 24 i must have generation 12 since i bought them 7 or 8 months ago. so DANA i challenge you to
replace these pads with your new stuff and i will honestly test them and report unbiased results back to the pros.
Ken De Melis
603-393-2776 NH, ME
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Mike Marsoun <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
Yeah! I'd love to know also. Thanks John. (he might still be away).
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On 13/08/2013, at 10:58 AM, stuart rosen <email@example.com> wrote:
Any news on the cheetah pucks?