It is seldom we ever start lower than a 220 grit diamond, the floor has to be in real bad condition to go any lower, if you are going below a 220 grit diamond then the floor has a 120 grit scratches running though it . I have not seen a floor needing a 120 for a long time.
Whenever you use honing powder you want to finish with 1 grit honing powder higher than the diamond you hone with. 220 powder use 400 powder. Finish with a 400 diamond use a 800 powder this would give a high honed finish.
If the customer is looking for a matte finish ( no shine or luster ) I would go with 220 diamond to remove the damage and then 400 powder.
I sometime finish my honed floor using a product from Hertron Prime grind M with a white pad this will bring back a nice color and a great luster to the floor.
Caution, the white pad will grab as you polish and do not apply too much polish. Work in the polish . a light mist application. Sometimes 2 light spray
John E Freitag
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The Stone & Tile School
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From: rosen.stuart@gmail.com [mailto:rosen.stuart@gmail.com] On Behalf Of stuart rosen
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 10:30 AM
To: Stone and Tile PROS Technical Support
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Flat Surface look
Hey Baird,
I agree with Carl-you may not have to go as low as 50 grit depending on the hardness of the surface and the pricing.
The starting point should be based on the condition of the surface.
Whatever grit gets beneath the wear or abrasion of the surface is where you want to start.
The finish is based on the result the client wants.
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Baird Standish <bairdstandish@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Stuart. What levels of diamonds would you use? I am going to do a little test next week.
B
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Facility Specialists, LLC
15 West Highland Ave.
Suite E
Philadelphia, PA 19118
Phone: 215-732-7505
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On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:04 AM, stuart rosen <mail@stoneshine.com> wrote:
Baird,
We always cut the floor with diamonds prior to using honing powders.
Think of breaking the surface with diamonds and removing all the surface abrasion and wear.
Then finishing with a honing powder will give you an awesome uniform finish.
We very rarely use honing powder above 280 grit.
Then seal with a color enhancing sealer.
I am sure the grout lines will need a good cleaning as well.
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 11:34 AM, John Freitag <jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> wrote:
You should be able to go in and use a honing powder 400 grit to take off the shine. If the floor still has too much shine then use a 250 grit powder.
Make sure your customer understands that this floor will get dirty fast. The pores in the stone is now opened and will require cleanings from time to time.
Make sure the floor is sealed with an Impregnating / Penetrating sealer. If the floor is not sealed it could stain.
John E Freitag
Director
The Stone & Tile School
Office 407-567-7652
Cell 407-615-0134
jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com
From: Baird Standish [mailto:bairdstandish@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 11:22 AM
To: Stone and Tile PROS Technical Support
Subject: [sccpartners] Flat Surface look
Hi. I have a client who has asked if we would remove the gloss from an office lobby floor, leaving the floor with a completely non glossy flat honed finish. It is a Tennessee marble. We actually did work on a floor in this building a year ago and rendered a low gloss sheen, which came out very well. We cut the floor with diamonds from 50 up to 200 and then used a combination of 5x and honing powder. In this case I would probably do the same thing and go with just a low grit honing powder. I also believe this floor was crystallized. Was wondering if anyone else has had a request like this and has a good approach (what diamonds to finish with, what grit honing powder etc.?) Thanks so much.
B
________________________________________
From the desk of
Baird Standish
Managing Partner
Facility Specialists, LLC
15 West Highland Ave.
Suite E
Philadelphia, PA 19118
Phone: 215-732-7505
Fax: 215-546-9160
www.facspecs.com
GH
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