Thanks your response ! Much appreciated.


On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 11:17 AM, Baird Standish <bairdstandish@gmail.com> wrote:
My only comment is that we have been doing a fair amount of color sealing recently on a number of different kinds of tile, tile widths, area sizes and different types of grout, some of which needed to be stripped.  For instance, on a floor that had 6" kitchen tiles that had been previously sealed I charged $6 for the whole thing (including stripping, cleaning, color-sealing and color enhancing) and lost money because of the time required.  In some cased the ventilation is so bad that the stuff will not stick to the grout without a lot of prep, blowers etc. Or maybe the grout is very shallow, or the tiles grab stuff and a lot of razor blading the edges is necessary.  Other tiles are pretty easy and straight forward.  Testing with custom colors also takes extra time. We also do small tiled vestibules in a large apartment complex near here and the area is typically only about 50 sf., for which I charge min $195.00 regardless of price per square foot, which takes into account set up time. 

I always (since taking John's marble restoration for businesses class) always estimate time, figure in 3-4x labor costs to get to a 66%-75% margin, add any high priced materials and then work back to what the competition might charge and also estimate how much extra time my guys can put in before I start to lose money or at least not make enough that I would think is worthwhile. But as a quick calculation on a fast job, I think Bruce at Grout Perfect told me that really fast guys can do 900 sf in a day (not my guys!) and if you assume then say $30 per hr for two people times 8 hrs times 4 (75% margin) you get to a little over a $1.00 psf for sealing only.  But, as I said, I have run into many situations that would significantly increase that price. 


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On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:42 AM, John Freitag <jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> wrote:
Roger , is this sanded or non sanded grout ? price to color only in your market would probably be $1.00 to 1.50 . call you local competition and ask them as if you were a customer what they get for color sealing. Better yet call and if you have tile in your home have them give you a price for the work. Then you know there pricing and there selling method.
 
 
John E Freitag
Director
The Stone & Tile School
 
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From: Roger Konarski [mailto:qm144@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:25 AM

To: Stone and Tile PROS Technical Support
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Color Seal
 
Let me rephrase that question, I looking for example fees to color seal the grout lines ? 1100 sq.ft./ 18 inch tiles. The grout lines are already cleaned.
 
Thanks,
 
Roger
 
On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:14 AM, Hector Castillo <hectorcastillo@comcast.net> wrote:
Been charging 3.65 clean and seal 
New seal only 1.83 for 8 yrs local guys as low as .25 per foot clean and seal 
Hector castillo
 
 
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-------- Original message --------
From: Roger Konarski
Date:03/26/2014 5:45 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Stone and Tile PROS Technical Support
Subject: [sccpartners] Color Seal
If I may ask , what is the going rate to color seal a floor ? 1100 sq.ft. In color sealing the floor, some missing grout will need to be replaced.
 
Thanks,
 
Roger