Roger,
Way to go!
Not sure about the shelf Life-Stored in a moderate temperature with caps tight they seem to last for quite sometime.
Steel wool is costly so if you can make your own pads you will save a bit.
I don't like those jumbo pads-seems like a waste of material to me.
We use the flat ones and we always place a white pad between the wool and the drivers.
We only crystalize lightly on commercial jobs and think it is a good tool for maintaining those accounts.
It is also good to work(explore) with different types of crystallizer products to see the differences of each and what may work better for you.
I always tell our guys the polishing will only be as good as the honing of a surface.
Think of the crystallizer more as a cleaning/finishing tool then as a means to establish a polish. 



On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Roger Konarski (via sccpartners list) <nobody@simplelists.com> wrote:
This email was sent from yahoo.com which does not allow forwarding of emails via email lists. Therefore the sender's email address (qm144@yahoo.com) has been replaced with a dummy one.

Yes it worked out fine. Use #1 steel wool and it came out great !
I am curious:
1.  what is the self life of crystallizer .
2. If you don't want to make your own pads, what is better, the pad flat like  pancake or the fluffy pad.
3. What about placing a white pad between the floor machine backer pad and the wool pad. Is that a viable way to use it with the floor machine ? So when you remove the pad from the machine it is not so clinging and leaving strands on the  backer pad.

We have a few commercial accounts and I am working on getting my techs to service the floors like John recommends in his class. 

Thanks,
Roger

On Thursday, May 22, 2014 10:12 AM, stuart rosen <mail@stoneshine.com> wrote:


Were you able to correct the swirls.


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Roger Konarski (via sccpartners list) <nobody@simplelists.com> wrote:
This email was sent from yahoo.com which does not allow forwarding of emails via email lists. Therefore the sender's email address (qm144@yahoo.com) has been replaced with a dummy one.

Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

On May 22, 2014, at 4:24 AM, Mike Marsoun <nulifesc@bigpond.com> wrote:

The problem is that black marble retains heat. This creates a problem. VMC makes a special fluid for this, not the pink one, I believe it is the blue, the acids stay in suspension for longer and will not soak in. You do meet to go light if you are using a pink type. Or use something more waxy like Prime Grind M. I'm not up on it having not used crystalizers in years but I used to a lot. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 22 May 2014, at 2:04 am, "John Freitag" <jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> wrote:

From my use of crystallization and jobs I have seen in most cases there too much crystallization used. A fine mist is all you need, especially if you have already polished the stone with a polishing powder. If you using  fine mist you can get 1000 or more sq.ft. before the pad become too wet. On some floors ( greens) the more build up you get in the pad the better it works ,however at the end you need to use a dry pad and buff off.
 
 
John E Freitag
Director
The Stone & Tile School
Office 407-567-7652
Cell 407-615-0134
 
<image001.jpg>
 
 
 
From: list-manager@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com [mailto:list-manager@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com] On Behalf Of Perfect Marble 2
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:42 AM
To: sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com
Subject: Re: Swirl Marks
 
Swirl marks may be to using to much crystallizer and steel wool pad is loaded with product.  Apply small amount and flip pad every 600 ft 

Sent by iPhone 
Dayron Padilla
Perfect Marble
 

On May 21, 2014, at 11:41 AM, "John Freitag" <jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> wrote:
I disagree with 000 or 0000 steel wool. This steel wool will generate too much heat and you will run a high risk to dulling the floor or what known as burning the surface by generating too much heat.
 
The #1 steel wool is the best grade to use and the only grade I use and the only grade we use when training.
 
 
John E Freitag
Director
The Stone & Tile School
Office 407-567-7652
Cell 407-615-0134
 
<image001.jpg>
 
 
 
 
 
From: list-manager@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com [mailto:list-manager@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com] On Behalf Of Georgia
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:20 AM
To: sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com
Subject: Re: Swirl Marks
 
Roger. That steel wool is too corse. 000 or 0000 is best. The swirl marks will need to be honed out.
On May 21, 2014 9:18 AM, "Roger Konarski (via sccpartners list)" <nobody@simplelists.com> wrote:
This email was sent from yahoo.com which does not allow forwarding of emails via email lists. Therefore the sender's email address (qm144@yahoo.com) has been replaced with a dummy one.
 
My techs did a commercial job with black marble. The final strep way to crystalize the floor. I just got a call back with issues of swirl marks. They use 0 steel wool. We very rarely crystalize , thus have very little experience in that area.
What did we do wrong and needs to de done to correct the problem?
 
Thanks,
 
Roger  
 
Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription 
preferences:
http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners
 
Start a new conversation (thread): 
sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com
 
 
Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription 
preferences:
http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners
 
Start a new conversation (thread): 
sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com
 
 
Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription 
preferences:
http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners
 
Start a new conversation (thread): 
sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com
 
 
Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription 
preferences:
http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners
 
Start a new conversation (thread): 
sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com
 
 
Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription 
preferences:
http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners
 
Start a new conversation (thread): 
sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com

 
Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription 
preferences:
http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners
 
Start a new conversation (thread): 
sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com

 
Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription 
preferences:
http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners
 
Start a new conversation (thread): 
sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com




--
Regards,
Stu Rosen
201-446-1200
 
Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription 
preferences:


 
Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription 
preferences:
http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners
 
Start a new conversation (thread): 
sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com




--
Regards,
Stu Rosen
201-446-1200
www.stoneshine.com
www.mbstonecare.com
www.mbstonepro.com
"EVERYTHING MATTERS"