Roger,
The shelf life is going to be approximately 1 year maybe a year and a half. In your climate you need to be more concerned with the product freezing, once the product freezes it is not recommended to use it. Heat can cause problem but not too often. I’m in Florida and my trucks get up to 120 plus degrees and I have never had a problem with the product, not saying that some manufactures of crystallizers may be effected by heat.
If you don’t want to make your steel wool pads by ready made the fluffy pads have a tendency to rock the machine and you waste a lot of product. The flat pads are ok some like it better than the fluffy pads, make sure the pad you are using is a #1 pad for the best results. Some like the #0 pad but it will generate more heat and you could burn off the shine using a #1.
In training we recommend using a natural hair pad between the steel wool and the drive plate to eliminate the steel wool sticking to the Velcro.
Roger not sure if you took my maintenance class or not , there are process on maintenance where you can guarantee the floors will never need to be restored if you following the system I use for maintenance, I have building I have maintained for 20 years and restored the floor once.
If you did not take the class on maintenance I would recommend it. The grat thing about maintenance the income comes in every month !! with no selling
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Yes it worked out fine. Use #1 steel wool and it came out great !
1. what is the self life of crystallizer .
2. If you don't want to make your own pads, what is better, the pad flat like pancake or the fluffy pad.
3. What about placing a white pad between the floor machine backer pad and the wool pad. Is that a viable way to use it with the floor machine ? So when you remove the pad from the machine it is not so clinging and leaving strands on the backer pad.
We have a few commercial accounts and I am working on getting my techs to service the floors like John recommends in his class.
Were you able to correct the swirls.
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The problem is that black marble retains heat. This creates a problem. VMC makes a special fluid for this, not the pink one, I believe it is the blue, the acids stay in suspension for longer and will not soak in. You do meet to go light if you are using a pink type. Or use something more waxy like Prime Grind M. I'm not up on it having not used crystalizers in years but I used to a lot.
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From my use of crystallization and jobs I have seen in most cases there too much crystallization used. A fine mist is all you need, especially if you have already polished the stone with a polishing powder. If you using fine mist you can get 1000 or more sq.ft. before the pad become too wet. On some floors ( greens) the more build up you get in the pad the better it works ,however at the end you need to use a dry pad and buff off.
Swirl marks may be to using to much crystallizer and steel wool pad is loaded with product. Apply small amount and flip pad every 600 ft
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I disagree with 000 or 0000 steel wool. This steel wool will generate too much heat and you will run a high risk to dulling the floor or what known as burning the surface by generating too much heat.
The #1 steel wool is the best grade to use and the only grade I use and the only grade we use when training.
Roger. That steel wool is too corse. 000 or 0000 is best. The swirl marks will need to be honed out.
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My techs did a commercial job with black marble. The final strep way to crystalize the floor. I just got a call back with issues of swirl marks. They use 0 steel wool. We very rarely crystalize , thus have very little experience in that area.
What did we do wrong and needs to de done to correct the problem?
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