When we do Saltillo tile Restoration it usually Falls into two categories…

A simple clean and glaze. I call it that because we use the glaze and seal product which is an acrylic polymer topcoat sealer. 

I never apply this on exterior tiles because as Adam mentioned it can dry with bubbles, especially if it’s a little windy or warm outside causing it to dry prematurely. 
On top of that if it’s exposed to the sun you get a call back in one year because the sun will oxidized the finish. 
Don’t need that problem anymore!

The second category is complete chemical stripping then resealing. 
We use Klean strip paint stripper. 
As it’s breaking away it gets clumpy, so we add an alkaline water base stripper that emulsifies and breaks it down so it’s easily extractable.
Saltillo tiles can take 3 to 4 days or more to dry out depending on the weather to return to Seal and complete the job.
After the stripping .80% of the work is completed. 
So I always collect 80% of the money after the stripping then the final balance after we return to put the sealer coat on.

My experiences is you never know what’s gonna happen between the time you strip the floor and when you return to Seal, see you got to get the money. 

Back to what Adam mentioned always let the customer know the possibilities of baseboard damage that’s why I added this disclaimer in the black section of my contract. 
It’s saved my ass many times.
I’ve had a few customers leave me some very nasty messages as if they were ready to Go to court. 
I respond with, “ did you read the contract, The black section?” I get a Oh. Ok…
That’s my 2 cents, hope it helps someone.

Tony DeLuna
Cell 925-437-1559
Biz 925-625-9625
www.PatriotStoneRestoration.com

On Feb 17, 2022, at 4:15 PM, richmond aidoo <nadoka.lc@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you all for your help. I truly appreciate it 

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On Feb 17, 2022, at 5:51 PM, Adam Bartos <info@restoreyourtiles.com> wrote:


+1 to all above.
I offer customers exactly what Baird described above and frankly scare them from choosing option #1. I used International finish from Sparks and their base coat.
In addition:
When stripping you have to tell customers about potential damage to woodwork, cabinets etc because strippers not only dissolve the sealers and coating but also paint and varnish.
Also when the old finish is completely worn off, inform the customer that when they go for option #2, there may be some finish difference in those previously worn spots.
If you color seal the grout, I would do it after the base coat and before the final coats.
When applying final coats, watch for bubbles. If left on the surface you will have a very difficult time removing them.
If you have never done it before, partner with someone who has or use Bairds option #2 approach.

Adam Bartos 
BiO Tile

On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 11:04 AM Baird Standish <bairdstandish@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi. We have been doing Saltillo for a long time and have done quite a lot recently. Our program goes as follows-
1. If they are looking for a "new" floor, meaning completely stripping and recoating, we always charge Time and materials for the stripping and the grout cleaning and repair. Beyond that, the coating is usually pretty straightforward, although there are a number of options. That approach usually scares people away, but I don’t really care because the whole stripping and grout cleaning is a big ball of wax. 

2. on the other hand, I find that most people around here just want the floor to look good. in that case, we clean with a soft brush or a purple 3M pad. That will usually strip some of the existing sealant off the top.  We then coat the bare patches with MB STONE barrier. The barrier does not allow the glossy final topcoat to penetrate that far down into the stone and allows it to set up so we don’t need to put more than two coats of the topcoat on and worry about a it sinking down into the stone. We charge extra for grout cleaning. For a satin finish, we typically use Drytreat intensifia (now called color enhancing sealer - very creative those new owners). Otherwise we coat the floor with Olé or 3M Polymeric. Usually comes out pretty nice. 
Baird

On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 10:57 AM Jim Walthall <jim@beyondcleantile.com> wrote:
Richmond,

Depending on your location, Sparks SW has good products to strip and coat saltillo.  They have good tech support. They are out of Texas and depending on the products needed, they may not be able to ship to your state.  I agree with all that was said, there is a large learning curve with saltillo and if not completed correctly, it can turn into a loss bigtime in a hurry.

Jim Walthall
Beyond Clean Tile
936-856-8610
936-777-4007 cell
www.BeyondCleanTile.com
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On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 9:35 AM Tony Deluna <tndeluna@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Richmond, I agree with Stuart. Partner with someone who knows how to do it or walk away.  If the Saltillo tiles need anything beyond a light cleaning and reglazing, without experience it can get really complicated and turn into a miserable nightmare. 
If it comes to stripping you’ll have to do it 100% because whatever doesn’t come off will show under the finish coat. 
I learned that the hard way when I had to re-strip one and get it right the second time around in order to get paid.

Tony DeLuna
Cell 925-437-1559
Biz 925-625-9625

On Feb 17, 2022, at 6:24 AM, richmond aidoo <nadoka.lc@gmail.com> wrote:

Fred, 
What is the best coating product you will recommend? 

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On Feb 17, 2022, at 9:19 AM, Stuart Rosen <mail@stoneshine.com> wrote:


If you dont have experience with saltillo you will want to consider partnering with someone. Parts of that floor look like they just need cleaning and recoating but other areas look like it will need a more intensive
process. Once you start stripping your commited. I agree with Tim just adding speak to your clients to determine the scope of the job-sometimes they may not want much more than a cleaning and recoating. 

On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 8:24 AM Fred Hueston <fhueston@gmail.com> wrote:
For Saltillo you will need a coating

On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 8:19 AM Joseph Walsh <littlefete01@msn.com> wrote:
It is Saltillo tile. It has to be stripped and then resealed. you need a stripper that will remove the coat off and then reseal it. Only use a scub brush on the floor machine, or by hand. It is very delicate and can damage easily. As for sealing impregnated sealer. When stripping make sure the grout lines are done also. When sealing it make sure everything sealed grout lines and tiles.

Joe 
Remedy Surface Care




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A new home owner just purchased a house with these tiles(Not Sure of the type or name) but will love to keep it if I can restore it as almost new.
She wants it cleaned, polished and colored.
Please see pictures attached and help with any suggestions on how to proceed and restore back to as new.

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