we mix it runny and trowel it in with a drywall blade...let it dry over night...we grout after 200 resins. I have been using my own admix makes it a lot harder..i use the traverfil that eastern marble sells comes in ivory and mocha, its cementious...seems to work fine...course i have used unsanded grout many times too with an admix. i use the patchcrete admix from Lyons Mfg, it is made for concrete overlays....dries hard hard


On Saturday, July 19, 2014 4:29 PM, Randy Frye <rfrye6@gmail.com> wrote:


Pit grout 45 min
Stone edge grout 12 hrs

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On Jul 19, 2014, at 4:54 PM, Stu Rosen <rosen.stuart@gmail.com> wrote:

I would like to try it sounds like a good product.
Cure time is kinda fast but I bet it works good.


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On Jul 19, 2014, at 3:53 PM, "John Freitag" <jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> wrote:

The product from VMC is not a grout based product, this product has marble dust, Portland cement , crème of tarter to slow or stop shrinking and a few other additives.
 
 
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Subject: Re: Traverfiil method
 
Bonstones traverfill is a good product and easy to work with.
I have used this product on interior/ exterior jobs and it will performs well.
As far as traverfills go they are all Portland based products or grout as far as I know.
You can use any unsanded grout and a grout additive, latticrete super latex(what we use) or any latex you want.
The way to mix the grout with the latex is so you get a nice thick mix that wont fall off your trowel when you hold it at 90 degrees.
The trick is in the way you trowel it out.
It has to be smooth and the holes should be slightly overfilled.
It is important to note that it is wise to try and use the color of the grout so that you wont get any spotting in the joints.
That's why I like to be able to chose any color I want.
Otherwise you will need to float the grout just over the tiles.
Like randy said at least 12 hours generally more and you can cut off with 220 resins and then take the surface wherever you want.
If you are going to polish however it may be better to use a product like a poly which is way tougher to remove.
There are many new grouts out there to consider-take a look at Tec power grout-25lbs about 50 bucks and look at its specs.
Yes I am interested in that product that VMC is selling but find it strange there isn't any tech sheet on it.
I would bet it is just a grout with additive already in it. Seems like the pot life should be a bit longer than 5-7minutes -that would be hard to work with.
42 lbs for $125.00 is the going price for grout-a little high -we pay about 30-40 bucks for a 25 lb bag.
 
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Baird Standish <bairdstandish@gmail.com> wrote:
Here it is:
http://www.vmctac.com/store2browseproduct/90446/traverfill#.U8nZdNm9K0c
 
 
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On Jul 18, 2014, at 10:18 PM, Tony Warney <tony@excelstoneandtilecare.com> wrote:
Could  get the link? Thanks
 
 
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Bstandish <bstandish@facspecs.com> wrote:
I understand. I talked to Ken at VMC. We are clear in what he is sending me. Thanks B
 
 
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On Jul 18, 2014, at 1:30 PM, "John Freitag" <jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> wrote:
Baird,
 
The product is not grout it Is traverfill . you can get it in traverfil light and traverfil dark.
 
 
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The Stone & Tile School
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Cell 407-615-0134
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Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 12:24 PM
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Subject: Re: Traverfiil method
 
Thanks John. I just put an order in for the grout from VMC. 
B
 
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On Jul 18, 2014, at 12:04 PM, "John Freitag" <jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> wrote:
Baird,
 
I have used the 2 part product and do not care for it. If the instructions are state 2 part liquid and 7 parts of powder,then secure a measuring cup and fill the cup with 7 cups of powder and then add 2 cups of liquid.
I prefer to use the traver fill from VMC out of Dallas, TX  the product is a powder and you just add water. The pot life is short 5 to 7 minutes.
Hone the floor up to at least 220 using a grout float, float the filling in all holes. Depending upon the number of holes we often float over the entire floor  after the 220 hone.
Allow the fill to cure overnioght, then the next day come back and clean off with a natural hair pad and then polish. If you are going to hone to 400 then hone the floor with the 400 and then polish or do whatever finish you want.
This fill from VMC is an easy fill to use.
 
 
John E Freitag
Director
The Stone & Tile School
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Cell 407-615-0134
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From: list-manager@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com [mailto:list-manager@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com] On Behalf Of Baird Standish
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 8:52 AM
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Subject: Traverfiil method
 
Hello partners. We are working on the restoration of a travertine floor. I recently purchased a gallon kit of Bonstone Traverfill, which is a two part material involving both powder and liquid. I tried to find the recent thread where this was discussed, but for some reason I cannot find it.  The instructions are fairly vague.  They suggest either a mixture of 1 .5 liquid to 5 parts powder by weight, or 2 parts liquid to 7 parts powder by weight.  There has to be a better way to gauge the mixture. 
 
Also, they do not suggest a curing time. 
 
We have cut the floor to 100 grit and my plan is to test some of the areas. Am I on track if I fill after 100, cut the floor with 200 and then continue honing or polishing as necessary?  How long do I have to let this stuff dry?
Thanks
Baird
 


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