Thanks Stu. I hear you and have had the same experience. Looks like crap flattening only some seams and grout. This job is to do the whole hog. Just trying to keep from opening it up so much, but my knees are telling me "noooo!!"  It is big format tiles and a honed finish so I am not worried about the reflection. Would never consider doing it on a polished finish. 

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On 4 Oct 2014, at 11:55 pm, stuart rosen <mail@stoneshine.com> wrote:

I have done that for builders who had their clients only complain about lippage in specific areas of a floor.
I have done enough to know that it is a marginal practice.
If you flatten the floor in certain areas it is quite noticeable especially to a detailed oriented client.
There have been times when after delipping areas we had to go back and delip the whole floor.
So we never do partial de-lipping jobs for direct customers-its either we delip or we don't.
Anyway for the builder clients what I found works better and makes everyone happy is just knocking down the lips to an acceptable limit.
I try and match the worse areas to the areas the customer hasn't complained about.
I mark off those areas and use the midway point of a tile so I am in between the grout lines.
This way the transition point is less noticeable. I take the toe trippers or lips that will bounce the machine into the air down using genesis or similar electro plated abrasives( on our hands and knees).
Then I run 4- 3 inch copper diamonds (120 grit)(Bulgarian coppers) on a swing machine and just bring the lips done enough to blend in with the existing floor. The downside is it takes time even on a soft stone. Works great on travertines but we do it wet except for the initial Makita work that we do dry with heap vacumms.
The upside side is -it wont pull much fill and it can (in most cases) be followed by a 120 grit resin diamond.
Its a pain in the ass and I only do it for regular commercial clients but it works quite well.
We don't typically have any issues with picture frames on these type of jobs.
   

On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Mike Marsoun <nulifesc@bigpond.com> wrote:
I have about 2000 sf of travertine to flatten and fill and hone. It is 800mm tiles and the lips not too bad but a few good ones, a new install. I'm thinking about a hand machine to flatten the seams so I done open it up too bad, seems like a waste of time to do so much area that doesn't need it, start my grinding with a floor machine at 120r. I did some areas with a 4" 50 turbocat then a 70 genesis electroated and it works good but would like it to go faster, maybe something to flatten one step and leave screeches a 120r can handle. Any ideas? I want to keep it all dry grinding for step 1, so it is an easy clean up before re filling (one of my objectives)

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