That's great Carl,
Glad you had good results.
I have a client overseas who is going to try potassium silicate 
densifier on a very soft porous limestone.
He had some trouble polishing this material.
I am curious to see if densifying will help make the stone a bit harder and less porous.





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On Feb 4, 2015, at 7:44 PM, Bob Murrell <bmurrell@rocketmail.com> wrote:

Premium 5X and other proprietary conditioners which do exactly as you said. They help harden the stone,
reduce acid splatter etches, and can generally improve gloss on many calcareous stones and terrazzo.
All of the compounds on the market have basically been copying from the original product I helped to 
develop over 20 years ago with VIC. Of course the Majestic Compound uses only the best ingredients starting with the finest grade of 5X available 
anywhere in the world. All restoration professionals should have both the straight 5X and some Stone Polishing Compound as these 
two are probably the most used in the world. Also some Majestic a Spray Crystallizer to give that extra color and
5+ points on the gloss meter where required. 

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On Feb 4, 2015, at 6:35 PM, cpstaples <cpstaples@msn.com> wrote:j

doesn't seem to leave as many splash mark/etching when polishing, I honestly think it is just 5 X polish with some kind of liquid added to it. It has the same characteristics as 5x if you examine it close


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-------- Original message --------
From: Baird Standish
Date:02/04/2015 5:21 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com
Subject: Re: Travertine/Limestone

Hi Carl. How does the liquid polish compare to powder polishes?  I have never used the liquid. Thanks,
Baird


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On Feb 4, 2015, at 5:16 PM, Pat Staples <cpstaples@msn.com> wrote:

I did the Travertine job and used Dana's Lithium Hardener, sanded with #2 pucks and polished with M3's liquid polish.
It improved the graininess tremendously.
Any Travertine jobs I get in the future I will definitely use the Lithium Hardener 
 
Thank you
Carl Staples
Classic Marble & Stone Restoration
610-356-4100
www.marblerestore.com
 
From: rfrye6@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Travertine/Limestone
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 09:22:59 -0500
To: sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com

Prosoco isn’t the most reliable when talking natural stone. I will try it in next day or two and report back.


On Jan 29, 2015, at 9:13 AM, cpstaples <cpstaples@msn.com> wrote:

I just got off the phone with Prosecco and they said grind and fill is not good for travertine or limestone. has anybody used it on travertine and limestone?


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-------- Original message --------
From: Randy Frye 
Date:01/28/2015 3:58 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com 
Subject: Re: Travertine/Limestone 

(727) 656-8585
Tom

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------ Original message------
From: Randy Frye
Date: Wed, Jan 28, 2015 2:01 PM
Subject:Re: Travertine/Limestone
 
Grind and fill works by replacing the water in the grind, you soak the floor with it and work it till dry.  We have used it with 70 and 120 metals and even 50 resins with no issues.

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Randy Frye, CEI Surface Pros
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On Jan 28, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Baird Standish <bairdstandish@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Carl.  Unfortunately I have never used the product. I was just speculating on what would happen.  The only products that I have used on travertine are traver-fil (from VMC) and the epoxy travertine filler, which is just buff colored tanax.  They have worked will for me.  
B


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On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:22 PM, cpstaples <cpstaples@msn.com> wrote:
Baird, would you happen to have any grind and still I could borrow and replace?


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-------- Original message --------
From: Baird Standish 
Date:01/28/2015 2:17 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com 
Subject: Re: Travertine/Limestone 

It looks like the floor would have to be ground dry and perhaps with metal diamond in order to create enough dust to mix with the grind -n-fill. I see that working on concrete but maybe not on travertine?
B


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On Jan 28, 2015, at 2:06 PM, cpstaples <cpstaples@msn.com> wrote:

sounds like the Prosoco's grind and fill is what I would be looking for. Too bad nobody local stocks it. it is something that I'm going to get so I have it all times. 


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-------- Original message --------
From: Randy Frye 
Date:01/28/2015 1:16 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com 
Subject: Re: Travertine/Limestone 

We haven't tried this yet, but will soon.This maybe something for this job : for filling of travertine holes after a grind ... on the last metal step use Prosoco's grind and fill. Then densify. Just a thought.  

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Randy Frye, CEI Surface Pros

On Jan 28, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Pat Staples <cpstaples@msn.com> wrote:

I was told overnight 

Thank you 
Carl Staples 
Classic Marble & Stone Restoration 
610-356-4100 
www.marblerestore.com 
 
From: rfrye@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Travertine/Limestone
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 10:59:56 -0500
To: sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com

You might want to double check to see how long the densifier should be on before starting your cutting begins. Some say once it is dry some say an hour some say overnight.

Best Regards,
Randy Frye, CEI Surface Pros

On Jan 28, 2015, at 10:03 AM, Pat Staples <cpstaples@msn.com> wrote:

Doing testing tomorrow, I will let you know how it turns out

Thank you 
Carl Staples 
Classic Marble & Stone Restoration 
610-356-4100 
www.marblerestore.com 
 
From: rosen.stuart@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Travertine/Limestone
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 08:31:28 -0500
To: sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com

Working with that type lower quality travertine can be tough.
It doesn't look good in any finish .
Always seems to look smudgy.
I haven't tried densifier on travertine yet but I have read and heard it may help.
What we do when we run across this is to do a few sample finishes for the customer and let them pick one.
I think most chose the deeper honed finish.
I would like to know if you do some testing with densifier and results..

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On Jan 28, 2015, at 1:19 AM, Stephen Webb <stephen@newlifemarblerestoration.com> wrote:

Yikes!! look at the lippage, need to be ground flat. a maintenance pad will clean up a lot of the graininess, maybe start at 400 go to 800



On 1/27/2015 3:59 AM, Pat Staples wrote:
<mime-attachment.jpg>    <mime-attachment.jpg> 
 
These are the best pictures I have to show the graininess.
Looks worse in person
 
Thank you
Carl Staples
Classic Marble & Stone Restoration
610-356-4100
www.marblerestore.com
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Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 1:13 AM
Subject: RE: Travertine/Limestone

Any photos


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-------- Original message --------
From: Pat Staples 
Date:01/26/2015 5:19 PM (GMT-08:00) 
Subject: Travertine/Limestone 

Hello everybody,
We have a Travertine floor with a lot of graininess in it. 
How well do the Densifiers/Lithium Hardeners work to remove/fill the graininess
 
Thank you
Carl Staples 
Classic Marble & Stone Restoration 
610-356-4100 
www.marblerestore.com 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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