I know. That's my point. A true coating will protect against etching. I used Tekon a bit and it did leave a film but not enough to do any good. 

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On 18 Feb 2015, at 7:29 am, Randy Frye <rfrye@comcast.net> wrote:


Stone will still etch with bulletproof applied. It may allow a little time before it does. 

Stonetech just hired us to refinish a marble top treated with bulletproof, the person is really angry and calling it stains. But the rep from bulletproof wants me to reiterate again its to prevent staining but not etching.

Hydroshield is the same from what this man said that is hiring them. 


On Feb 17, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Mike Marsoun <nulifesc@bigpond.com> wrote:

If that is the case then does the bulletproof prevent etching? 

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On 18 Feb 2015, at 6:24 am, Stu Rosen <rosen.stuart@gmail.com> wrote:

I think that should be predicated on the stone you are working on.
In the case of sealers price can be comparable to quality.
But you need to read the msds and talk to the manufacturer if possible.
Penetration , resin and resin dilution are important.
John makes a good point about bulletproof.
Go ahead and pull the msds and have a look.
I think the most important part of the sealer equation is the application.
A trained knowledgeable tech is in my opinion the key to sealing correctly.

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On Feb 17, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Dayron <dayron.padilla13@gmail.com> wrote:

So , what's the best impregnator? 

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On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:58 AM, John Freitag <jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> wrote:

Ron , 
 
Are you aware that DuPont Bullet Proof sealer leaves a topical  film on top of the stone and will add shine to honed finishes.  Test the  product on a honed finish stone, allow to cure, do ½ of the stone . then look at the stone and you will see more shine on the sealed surface than the un-sealed surface. 
 
We ran across this on a Limestone at Orlando International Airport , we caould go in and use an alkaline based stripper and dull the surface, after discussion with DuPont lead  chemists  he admitted it does leave a film on the surface that can be stripped  off, therefore is this a coating or a sealer??? 
I would say it a coating.
 
 
John E Freitag
President/Owner
The Stone & Tile School
407-567-7652
407-615-0134
 
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Randy, 

This is a company who at one point was leading the industry in cutting edge technology. The products they developed are very good (in my opinion) and as a result Dupont came in and bought them out. There are still several that I use all the time. The "Heavy-duty" and "Bullet Proof" sealers are very good. 

Ron

On Feb 12, 2015 10:13 AM, "Randy Frye" <rfrye6@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Ron
Whats this Stone Tech all about. They Just called me to help on a job.
 
 
On Feb 12, 2015, at 8:27 AM, Ron Moore <rmoore@americanstonecare.com> wrote:
 

Randy,

I'm not familiar with the hydroshield. Sounds to good to be true. I have a small portion of business that is going in to remove the ones that were "to good to be true" and replacing with Stone Tech. As far as the guarantee,  tell him you'll do it as long as he guarantees no one lives there for 5 years. Other than that, I think you handled it perfectly. I know we are all in this to make money, however peace of mind is also important. When you hear rediculous claims or demands, walk away. Be sure to do it with a smile,  but thank them,  wish them luck and be sure to leave a card as the odds are they will need you down the road. 

Ron Moore
American Stone Care, Inc. 

On Feb 12, 2015 8:06 AM, "Randy Frye" <rfrye@comcast.net> wrote:
Hello Brother and Sisters in Stone:
 
I was asked yesterday to bid a 3,000 sq ft New Home home with just installed pure white marble. The gentlemen wanted to have a guarantee for a least 5 yrs that the stone would not stain. I’m thinking no way. I won’t have any proof of how long after they spill something they will wipe up or how they may maintain the floor with heavy water mopping.  (Side Note: Lately while doing lots of commercial account these janitorial firms are just about flooding the floor with mop water during their mopping).
 
 
So he tells me about this franchise Hydroshield that will do this 5 yr guarantee. He also said the iron in the stone would not oxide and cause discoloration over time from mopping. The cost was $3.75 per sq ft. 
 
Have any of you gotten any information on this company or product? I told the man to go for that but check the fine print on the guarantee. 
 
 
Thanks
 
Randy, CEI Surface Pros
 
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