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From: Baird Standish

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Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 1:54 PM

Subject: Re: Marble granite combo

U have a set of 5" pucks with a tapered edged. The problem is that they won't hone  right up against a wall because of the taper, even if you put them right a the edge of the driver pad. I didn't realize this was the new design.b

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On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Pat Staples <cpstaples@msn.com> wrote:

John,

You have the 3" pucks with the new design tapered edge???

 

Thank you
Carl Staples
Classic Marble & Stone Restoration
610-356-4100
www.marblerestore.com

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From: John Freitag

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Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 1:31 PM

Subject: RE: Marble granite combo

We have used the pucks and the pads om granite and got very good results, I have the old pucks and the new pucks which now have a tapered edge like the number 1 pad had to deal with light lippage.

The pads system works , my recommendation is to take the training class and learn how to use them, and we do not use an extractor between pads. I don’t have an extractor and my plans are not to buy one. The key is how to use these pads with the equipment we all have.

 

 

John E Freitag

 

John E Freitag

Owner/Director

The Stone & Tile School

Office 407-567-7680

Cell 407-615-0134

 

 

 

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From: list-manager@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com [mailto:list-manager@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com] On Behalf Of cpstaples
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 9:56 AM
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Subject: RE: Marble granite combo

 

I have tried the 3" pucks on a 16"x16" granite floor. I used a granite head attachment on a mastercraft to get a faster rmp and I tried a regular drive plate on a 145rpm machine but didnt get as good a finish as I did with conventional granite diamonds from M3. (Both pucks and conventional diamonds took the same amount of time to complete 100 sq ft. Also the 3" pucks kept flying off the maching from the lipps on the floor which held us up tramendously. The floor was already sanded once so the lippage wasn't that bad. I rinsed the floor throughly between grits but Dana told me I need an extractor and he is redesigning the 3" because of this reason. Next time im in the building im going to try the 5" pucks and see what happens. I'll let everybody know what happens next month. 

 

 

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From: stuart rosen
Date:04/20/2015 8:55 AM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: Re: Marble granite combo

If the floor Justin is talking about has only a small percentage of Granite. He has other options and may be able to just work around the granite .

Especially if they are just inserts or border areas.

Then he could offer better pricing and deliver a great job.

However if it is a floor that is truly mixed with marble and a high percentage of granite which has been abraded and has lippage it needs to be treated as a granite floor.

If the cheetah products can save 40% time on a granite floor using a swing machine you have my attention.

Do you recommend flattening the floor prior to using the pucks or pads?

Can the pucks or pads work though a granite /marble mixed floor with lippage?

Most granite floors we have done had to be flattened.

Unless they were slightly abraded and we could use MB-20 or a crystallizer.

The range of hardness of different granites makes flattening a long process. 

Normally the charge for working on granite is much higher because of the amount of effort involved.

If the pucks save that much time the profit margin can be increased nicely.

We don't get very many all granite jobs because of the price relationship to effort.

Most folks opt for another solution or just leave it.

Occasionally a granite job comes around.

I enclosed some pictures of a granite job we did with a Samich legend 4 hp machine.

I can tell you it would have been better if we used a true planetary machine instead of a swing machine converted to a planetary.

It wasn't enough weight-we had to improvise a bit.

Anyway we did get it nice and flat-shiny too!

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 9:02 AM, John Freitag <jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> wrote:

I would highly recommend the Cheetah Pads or Pucks , however if you don’t know how to use them the result will be fair. If you know how to use these pads and the process of using them the floor will turn out great. There the time required is much shorter than using diamonds by approximately 40 % . Recommend getting trained.
There is a training class next week if you are interested.


John E Freitag

John E Freitag
Owner/Director
The Stone & Tile School
Office 407-567-7680
Cell 407-615-0134




www.thestoneandtileschool.com




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From: list-manager@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com [mailto:list-manager@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com] On Behalf Of Justin
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:47 PM
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Subject: Re: Marble granite combo

Thanks
What's normal pricing and steps only granite I've done are countertops.

Justin Cameron
JMC Stone and Tile Care
Justin@JMCStoneandTileCare.com
951-972-6997

> On Apr 16, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Randy Frye <rfrye@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Usually restore whole area as if all was granite.
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> Best Regards,
> Randy Frye, CEI Surface Pros
> www.ceisurfacepros.com
> 239-253-1991
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>> Looking at a marble granite combo floor about 600 sqft .Was wondering any suggestions best way to restore it. It is in a nail salon so I'm sure there looking for the cheapest solution my favorite.
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