If the coating was a urethane than you may need to use the paint stripper

Frederick M. Hueston
www.stoneforensics.com
office             321 514 6845      
For more details see the training section at www.stoneforensics.com
check out the Stone and Tile Radio Show at http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred  Airs every Wednesday at 6pm EST
My other home improvement articles: https://fredsshed.wixsite.com/website/blog


The information contained in this email message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of recipients and above. The message may be in attorney-client communication and or work product and as such as privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended receipt, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error. Any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by email and delete the original message.


On Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 7:10 AM Jeff Davis <healthcoach4you2@gmail.com> wrote:
Bare Bones at 2:1 and then straight and I used a hand steamer with a brass brush and neither the sheen on the tile or the grout budged including the sheen on the grout, now I obviously don’t know if using our truck to rinse ( which we Run at about 230 I think and pressure at 1200  )
Would make any difference, I’ve done a lot with Chris but this has be stumped, especially since this is our first shot to all their other buildings 




"Helping people achieve what they never thought they could in a time frame they never imagined"   EMD 


Jeff Davis

C.O.P.E. Certified Health Coach,  



"The doctor of the future will give no medicine, but will interest her or his patients in the care of the human frame, in a proper diet, and in the cause and prevention of disease." - Thomas A. Edison



On Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 5:56 AM Blain Haeg <blain@goldstandardfloorcare.com> wrote:
Jeff,

I wouldn't recommend using a paint stripper for this job. For the original stripper that didn't work, what product was used & what was the dilution ratio (full strength, 1:1, 4:1, etc)? We typically use Bare Bones for stripping and the dilution needs to be modified per the individual project, usually 4:1 or 2:1.

It's possible that the previous color sealer application was done poorly, meaning that the grout was cleaned and prepped properly, and this is why the color sealer is failing. It's also possible that the coating on the tiles has been done multiple times and the color sealer was applied without the grout being stripped properly and this is why it is failing.

In either case, unless you can perfectly match the grout color sealer, I wouldn't recommend simply reapplying to the areas in which it is missing. I would strip the color sealer from the grout and the sealer from the tile, followed by an acid cleaner on the grout, followed by a neutral cleaner, & dry thoroughly. Then, the customer has the option of being satisfied with the original grout or the application of new grout color sealer.

Good luck.
 
Blain Haeg
Gold Standard Floor Care LLC
512.257.3070 office
512.750.1242 cell
blain@goldstandardfloorcare.com
www.GoldStandardFloorCare.com




Virus-free.www.avast.com

On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 8:32 PM Jeff Davis <healthcoach4you2@gmail.com> wrote:
Fred thanks so much for the response bro, part also is the removal of the glaze on the tile and the grout? Is paint stripper the protocol? I mean when we do grout cleaning in our area of PA/NJ we charge a buck a foot, but Paint stripping is another beast, but it did return the tile to original 




"Helping people achieve what they never thought they could in a time frame they never imagined"   EMD 


Jeff Davis

C.O.P.E. Certified Health Coach,  



"The doctor of the future will give no medicine, but will interest her or his patients in the care of the human frame, in a proper diet, and in the cause and prevention of disease." - Thomas A. Edison



On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 11:48 AM Fred Hueston <fhueston@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeff
Here is a procedure that is in our new stone and tile restoration manual at www.sr-manual. There is an entire chapter on grout.

Procedure to Check if Color Seal Will Stick to Grout Using the Tape Test

Objective:
To determine the adhesion of color seal to grout by conducting a tape test.

Materials Needed:

  • Color seal (test sample)
  • Painter’s tape or masking tape
  • Grout surface (clean and dry)
  • Scissors (optional, for cutting tape)
  • Marker or pen (optional, for labeling)
  • Ruler or measuring tape (optional, for consistent tape size)

Procedure:

  1. Prepare the Grout Surface:

    • Ensure the grout you wish to test is clean and free of dirt, moisture, or any contaminants. If necessary, clean the area with a grout cleaner and allow it to dry completely.

  2. Select the Test Area:

    • Choose a small, inconspicuous area of the grout for testing to avoid visible damage to the finished surface.

  3. Apply the Color Seal:

    • Follow the manufacturer's instructions to apply a small amount of color seal to the selected grout area. Use a small brush or applicator if needed.
    • Allow the color seal to cure as per the manufacturer’s recommendations. This may take several hours to a few days.

  4. Prepare the Tape:

    • Cut a piece of painter's tape approximately 3-4 inches long. Ensure the tape is clean and free from any debris.

  5. Apply the Tape:

    • Firmly press the tape over the area where the color seal has been applied, ensuring there is good contact. Smooth it out to avoid air bubbles.

  6. Wait for a Moment:

    • Allow the tape to sit for about 10-15 minutes. This will help ensure proper adhesion to the color seal.

  7. Remove the Tape:

    • Carefully and quickly pull the tape away from the grout at a 45-degree angle.

  8. Observe the Results:

    • Check the tape for any color seal that has adhered to it. If the color seal remains on the grout and does not come off with the tape, it indicates good adhesion.
    • If the tape pulls off the color seal, it suggests poor adhesion.

  9. Document Findings:

    • Note the results of your test. If desired, label the area with the date and outcome for future reference.

  10. Clean Up:

  • Dispose of the used tape and any leftover color seal according to local regulations. Clean any tools used in the process.

Conclusion

  • If the color seal adheres well, it is likely suitable for use on your grout. If it does not adhere, you may need to consider a different product or prepare the surface differently before applying the seal.

On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 10:27 AM Jeff Davis <healthcoach4you2@gmail.com> wrote:





"Helping people achieve what they never thought they could in a time frame they never imagined"   EMD 


Jeff Davis

C.O.P.E. Certified Health Coach,  



"The doctor of the future will give no medicine, but will interest her or his patients in the care of the human frame, in a proper diet, and in the cause and prevention of disease." - Thomas A. Edison



Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription

preferences:

http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners



Start a new conversation (thread):

sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com





--
Frederick M. Hueston
www.stoneforensics.com
office             321 514 6845      
For more details see the training section at www.stoneforensics.com
check out the Stone and Tile Radio Show at http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred  Airs every Wednesday at 6pm EST
My other home improvement articles: https://fredsshed.wixsite.com/website/blog


The information contained in this email message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of recipients and above. The message may be in attorney-client communication and or work product and as such as privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended receipt, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error. Any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by email and delete the original message.



Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription

preferences:

http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners



Start a new conversation (thread):

sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com





Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription

preferences:

http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners



Start a new conversation (thread):

sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com





Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription

preferences:

http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners



Start a new conversation (thread):

sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com





Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription

preferences:

http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners



Start a new conversation (thread):

sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com