I would try the Klenztone as well. You can do samples and water it down to save money.  Just be very careful and keep it off glass, aluminium, granite, etc. Wear a acid gas resperator.  


On 1 Jul 2015, at 8:20 am, stuart rosen <mail@stoneshine.com> wrote:

Steve
what is the issue with the stone-Klnezstone has great products but they are for really dirty floors.
What was your process that didn't work.
Most likely you didn't go deep enough-what was the grit level of the dp.
Send a pic or 2 if you got them-

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Yes I am familar with the Kleenzstone products..I would give that a try

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Subject: Tumbled limestone interior flooring

Hi Fred. I hope your summer is going well. Quick question:  is there any product or process that you recommend for cleaning people he staying limestone? I tried using some Alkaline cleaners and Diamond impregnated pads but it was ineffective. I was thinking about using the klenstone line of products. The ones that remove the stain so within their product. Not sure if you're familiar with that we had another idea. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me. Steve

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I agree with the tests you list except for c97  not sure that one would be much help

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Subject: Re: Testing labs

Fred,
This is a list of their services-
I think they may need to test the following- C97, C295,E96,C67EFFLORESENCE, D5312
Would you add or delete any of the above tests-do you have an opinion on which stone may be a better choice.
I think it will really come down to installation in the end.


ASTM C 97 Absorption and Bulk Specific Gravity $150.00
ASTM C 99 Modulus of Rupture (wet or dry) $200.00/orientation/condition
ASTM C 170 Compressive Strength (wet or dry) $200.00/orientation/condition
ASTM C 241 Abrasion Resistance of Stone $350.00/includes C 97
ASTM C 295 Petrographic Examination $700.00/add $150.00 for XRD
ASTM C 880 Flexural Strength of Stone (wet or dry) $200.00/orientation/condition
ASTM C 1028 Coefficient of Friction (Neolite Heel Only) $275.00
ASTM C 1028 Coefficient of Friction (w/Rubber & Leather Heels) $450.00
ASTM C 1353 Abrasion Resistance of Stone by Taber Abraser $350.00/includes C 97
ASTM C 1354 Strength of Individual Anchorages in Dimensional Stone $350.00
ASTM E 96 Water Vapor Transmission $650.00
Basic 5 Tests ASTM C 97, C 99, C 170, C 241(or C 1353) and C 880 $850.00 (one orientation, one condition)
ASTM C 67 Efflorescence $550.00
ASTM C 67 Freezing & Thawing $900.00
ASTM C 666 Freezing & Thawing $900.00
ASTM D 5312 Durability of Freezing & Thawing Conditions $900.00

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 7:03 AM, stuart rosen <mail@stoneshine.com> wrote:
Will do-Thank you Fred.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 6:13 AM, Fred Hueston <fhueston@gmail.com> wrote:
Try Testing engineers in Salt Lake City, If they cant do it they may know a lab that can

On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 9:20 PM, stuart rosen <mail@stoneshine.com> wrote:
I have a client of mine who wants to install  marble on an exterior patio.
The area is basically about 4800 sq feet.
He has found a CREMA EDA marble form Turkey that he would like to use.
The pieces are 23.75" X 23.75" dimension.
They are 1.25"thick.
He wants to be able to make a comparison of 2 stones that would be suitable to be specified in this exterior area that is exposed to the elements and be durable enough to weather New York seasons.
He would like to compare it to a high quality true Italian Botticino.
Maybe a tumbled or brushed Botticino classic.
He would like to have the stones analyzed by a lab that specializes in this type of testing.
I have a found a few places that may be OK to test at.
Does anyone know a good lab where I could get this done for the client.
Any thoughts on this project are truly welcomed.



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