I get it about true creama marfil , I have Never burnt one before
True marfil usually not mesh backed at 2 cm, 

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On Sep 21, 2015, at 9:47 AM, stuart rosen <mail@stoneshine.com> wrote:

When crystallizing you want to work to work with a dry surface-even moisture within the stone cant interfere with crystallizing.


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When you say dry- Do you need to wait one day?



On Monday, September 21, 2015 11:27 AM, stuart rosen <mail@stoneshine.com> wrote:


Scott
True Crema Marfil is really hard to burn-we work on a large assortment of Crema and their look alikes.
Seems that some of the more marginal varieties are a much lower grade composed of some very sensitive minerals.
It also may be a Botticino-do you have any pics?
These surface can be frustrating to do-actually MB-12 used in pinches running the machine quickly may give you the best results.
We handle these surfaces by running diamonds to 1800.
Then using a small amount of polishing compound(MB12) and moving the machine quickly over a 8-10 sq ft area.
You may need to do this twice-the third time y0u only run the machine with the slightly loaded pad while you use a spray bottle mist to activate the powder on the pad.
I hope this makes sense to you-you gradually build the polish. The final step is crystallizing making sure the floor is dry.
#1 steel wool and a product like rhino is a good way to start.
After crystallizing sometimes we use V3 from VMC. It helps quite a bit on hard to polish floors .
Let me know if you have any questions. 


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Hi partners:
I have run into a difficult situation
Upstairs 24x24 cream martial, was factory finished with a crystalized polish,the tell tale steel wool micro scratches very apparent
Go to start the job,then realize this marble is on a wooden substructure, floor is creaking everywhere, lots of missing grout due to movement, find an unfinished closet, and this 24" stone
(Heavy 2 cm) is installed over one sheet 3/4 plywood and 1/2" wonder board
(Not nearly enough for this stone), so taking a heavy planetary upstairs not an option
So I take swing weighted machine up ,regular drive and diamonds, the first lippage I hit ,the whole upstairs 900 sq ft literally shakes, that's to dangerous
So I go with flexible pad ,diamonds mounted,go from 200- 1500
Polish with mb22 and the floor completely orange peals ,back to the 400
Then try 5x,mb12,10x,and 206r ,every acid polish left some orange peal
So now I have gone back mechanically diamond polished to 12000
Looks good , but just dosent have the same pop as the 5000+ feet crystalized downstairs
Then the customer finds several leftover stones downstairs,as soon as I saw them my heart sunk,it's 2cm and has a heavy mesh back,so I have done custom marble installs for years,and restoration since the later nineties, then I remember I had only seen this once before, it was a stone from Spain , very brittle,not very hard
I came from the Dr Fred school to never crystalize marble floors, I have never run steel and fluid
So here come the questions
 Will crystallization possibly solve my problem ? Bring up ultra clear pop?
Can someone tell me what finish condition needs to be before it's crystalized?
Can someone briefly walk me thru the method,and best products
Mr John , you are in this part of Florida ,would you consider sending an experienced man over to Gainesville for equitable compensation?
Thanks in advance for any and all input
Best regards
Scott Wilson
Wilson Stoneworks Inc

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