Robert,
This sounds like a really nice job! However,
I would suggest you consider doing a mockup/ sample area for the customer and charging for your time. Every job is different and can produce it own challenges. This will allow you to take all the guess work out of the project wether you hone and polish or grind the floor flat and polish while making you look like the professional that you are. This could also provide you with some leverage, for pricing, guaranteed results for your customer and completion time of the project. Then you give the customer something else to make their decision on price versus quality and professionalism. You could also offer them a maintenance plan to maintain their investment and make additional revenue in the future. Just my opinion!

Kevin L. Hudson
N-Motion Stone and Tile Restoration 
(678)662-0110


On Aug 18, 2017, at 11:46 PM, Robert Houlden <rghoulden@intexsurfacesolutions.ca> wrote:

Thanks. 
They're not worried about lippage, they just just want the floor to shine. I've used 200 resin to remove deep scratches and etches only a handful of times. Usually get them out with 400. On this marble, I think 400s will take out the deepest vomit etches. 

I've used Dia glo (not sure if it's the same product you've mentioned)  on granite and natural quartz but never on marble.

You're saying grind to 400 resin and use Dia Glo? 



Robert Houlden
Owner/Operator - INTEX Surface Solutions ltd.
rghoulden@intexsurfacesolutions.ca
(416) 458-0393
intexsurfacesolutions.ca
   


On Aug 18, 2017 11:40 PM, "Tony Deluna" <tndeluna@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Robert, it depends the square footage and on what type of marble floor your restoring, and how much lippage you have to take down and how many guys you have on your crew.
Some marble is more work than others, and requires more or less Diamond honing after the lippage cut. 

If the lippage cut is very minimum like less than the thick ness of a dime then 120 metal bond lippage cutters may do. I usually go straight to 220 resin bond after. But that depends on the type of pads you have and the smoothness of the cut. 
Maybe go to 400. But I would test first after 220 resin. Sometime it works

If you got 2  techs following behind you with a 110 floor machine & weighted pad driver with hog pads & Dai-glow you'll move fast. 

Dai-glo works 95% of the time producing a very high glassy Shine and fast too.

It puts 5x to shame when it comes to producing a hi shine polish But 5X has its place on certain stones.

If you got 2 tech, I'd figure $1,700 to $2,000 per day


Tony DeLuna

On Aug 18, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Robert Houlden <rghoulden@intexsurfacesolutions.ca> wrote:

Clean, polish and fill cracks and holes but not level them flush with the floor. Sealed with clear penetrating sealer. 

B) A full restore and make the floor look brand new again. Resurfacing to a high polish finish. Cracks and holes and ground flush with the floor and of course sealed with clear penetrating sealer. 

Oddly enough I learned this trade from Dana with the monkey pad system. I love the pads for honed and patina finishes but I can't figure out how to get a clear polish finish with the pucks and 11000 pad system. I have a klindex machine that wright's about 150 lbs without weights. 

The polishing compound is KP85 made by klindex. It's a bit of a pain to work with but I love the results. 

Pricing. I never ever do square footage pricing but for an area this big I need to justify throwing costs. I was thinking $2.00 a square for option a. $13,400 total. 
$3.50 a square foot for option b. $23,450 total. I know not every foot would have to be ground so I was thinking $3.00 a square foot but then I'm thinking why only a $1.00 more for a full grind. Clearly over thinking thus lol. 

I'm assuming it would take 4-5 days for option a, 7-8 days for option b. That's a complete guess. I never restored this much marble at once before. I like to gross $1000 a day on residential job but think I should make more on a larger commercial job.

Any input would be nice. I'm not going to crystalize.




Robert Houlden
Owner/Operator - INTEX Surface Solutions ltd.
rghoulden@intexsurfacesolutions.ca
(416) 458-0393
intexsurfacesolutions.ca
   

On Aug 18, 2017 7:48 PM, "Robert Houlden" <rghoulden@intexsurfacesolutions.ca> wrote:
Hi guys, new member here. I appreciate all the knowledge! 

We usually do small residential job or commercial, nothing ever close to this size. 6700 square feet of limestone at the Mandarin head office and flagship banquet hall. 

I've attached some pictures. Various cracks some hairline, others a bit larger. Traffic areas will need a grind. At least 800 grit, however there's a some deep stains and etches scattered in the lobby and hallways. Bride and Groom rooms have bathrooms that are destroyed. 

I know I'm competing against the company who did the work 9 years ago. They're a franchise and much bigger than my company. I already know my price will be more so I tried to sell them on out workmanship. 

There will be three hopefully four working. Two machines, two vacuums. 

I have prepared two options.

A) Clean, polish and fill cracks and holes but not level them flush with the floor. Sealed with clear penetrating sealer. 

B) A full restore and make the floor look brand new again. Resurfacing to a high polish finish. Cracks and holes and ground flush with the floor and of course sealed with clear penetrating sealer. 

Oddly enough I learned this trade from Dana with the monkey pad system. I love the pads for honed and patina finishes but I can't figure out how to get a clear polish finish with the pucks and 11000 pad system. I have a klindex machine that wright's about 150 lbs without weights. 

The polishing compound is KP85 made by klindex. It's a bit of a pain to work with but I love the results. 

Pricing. I never ever do square footage pricing but for an area this big I need to justify throwing costs. I was thinking $2.00 a square for option a. $13,400 total. 
$3.50 a square foot for option b. $23,450 total. I know not every foot would have to be ground so I was thinking $3.00 a square foot but then I'm thinking why only a $1.00 more for a full grind. Clearly over thinking thus lol. 

I'm assuming it would take 4-5 days for option a, 7-8 days for option b. That's a complete guess. I never restored this much marble at once before. I like to gross $1000 a day on residential job but think I should make more on a larger commercial job.

Any input would be nice. I'm not going to crystalize.





Thank You  


Robert Houlden 
Owner/Operator - INTEX Surface Solutions ltd.
rghoulden@intexsurfacesolutions.ca
(416) 458-0393
intexsurfacesolutions.ca
    

 
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