| Deborah Shaw-Nelson | |
| surpHaces | |
| p: | (877) 715.5313 m: (407) 415-0651 |
| w: | www.surphaces.com e: dsnelson@surphaces.com |
 | |
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 7:11 PM, Fred Hueston (via sccpartners list) <sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com> wrote:
Joe
You can listen to the recorded podcast anytime at www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred
Frederick M. Hueston
www.stoneforensics.com
office 321 514 6845
Stone Inspection and Troubleshooting Seminar January 21-24, 2019, Las Vegas, NV
For more details see the training section at www.stoneforensics.comtune into my new radio show at www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Sykes (via sccpartners list) <sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com >
To: sccpartners <sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com >
Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 6:10 pm
Subject: Re: Wages & commission advice
Dean, I didn’t know about this podcast? What are the details? Is too late to sign in? Joe Sykes Sr. Atlantic Stone and Tile Care
On Sep 4, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Dean McArthur <dean@crimsonstrategy.com> wrote:
This discussion about wages and compensation fits in perfectly with the podcast that Fred and I will be having tomorrow night. We will be touching upon knowing your numbers and how they directly relate to profitability. The other topic we want to discuss are employees and how to hire, train, manage and compensate. This thread is a great example of how one person's philosophy works for them and a totally different philosophy may work for somebody else.
It would be great to get a couple of live calls to discuss. You can also email questions or comments before or during the show.
On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 8:05 AM, <csantospago@gmail.com> wrote:
It’s one thing training a technician with the intention of learning the trade and working for your company. It’s another thing having somebody work with you and learn the trade with the intention of being your local competitor.I think we all like to help people and support people in this trade. That’s why we have this forum.Just be careful
Sent from my iPhoneYes I agree it’s just a psychological deterrent but there’s more than enough work to go around for anyone willing to do it that knows how to do it.
Tony DeLuna925-625-9625Non compete do not hold up in California. It is a psychological deterrent.
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 9:30 PM, Tony Deluna <tndeluna@gmail.com> wrote:
That’s a great idea, a non-competition agreement is very important.Thanks Dr. Fred!
I’ve been training technicians then I have to fire them or they move on or quite. as far as I’m concern that’s just part of the business.I don’t worry about anyone stealing customers of mine, I got so much work coming in I can’t keep up with it all anyway.
Thanks for the input Pro’s
Tony DeLuna925-625-9625I agree. plus if he is used to making that kind of money,,he won't last. On the other hand..Paint and body guys are easy to training since they are used to detailing. You can have him sign a non compete. That might work
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 12:18 PM <csantospago@gmail.com> wrote:
Sounds like a classic example of investing in and training a good tech and then after they are “up to speed” having them undercut you and steal your customers.
I was in the stone fabrication business for 10 years and had to deal with this many times. Every year I would train 2-3 technicians only to have at least one leave for more money at another shop or open their own shop and undercut me to steal my clients. That’s the main reason I got out of the fabrication business and started doing restoration.
If this guy has four kids, a mortgage and car payments then the last thing he’s thinking about is loyalty to you. That’s only human nature and survival.
Do what’s best for you and your business.
Good luck,
Chris Santospago
Restoration by Design Stone
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 3, 2018, at 7:31 AM, Randy Frye <rfrye6@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Its nice to help,but my thought is you are helping to create a future competitor. But I’m sure you thought about that. Good luck.
>
>> On Sep 2, 2018, at 11:10 PM, Tony Deluna <tndeluna@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey pros, wanted to get your opinion on this.
>> I have a neighbor/friend that wants to get into stone restoration.
>> He’s making a big commitment as we all did. Although he’ll be working for me he’s walking away from his trade of 18 years which is the same as mine previously. Auto body and paint.
>> I know he will excel because he has a lot at risk with four kids a home and new cars.
>> But they are two income family which allows the opportunity.
>>
>> He’s investing in his own equipment now and wants to work commission in a few years after he gets up to speed.
>>
>> Meanwhile he’ll be working hourly on jobs with me and the crew and doing simple small side jobs that I will give him to help make ends meet. These are small jobs that I could never get to.
>> He works commission in a body shop. On a good week he can make $2500. But that’s hard to do if there’s not enough work to go around which is been the case often.
>>
>> Has anyone had similar experience? if so what have you found that works and not work as far as wages, commission and transitioning?
>> Looking forward to your input thank you
>>
>>
>>
>> Tony DeLuna
>> 925-625-9625
>> www.PatriotStoneRestoration.com
>>
>> Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription
>> preferences:
>> http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners
>>
>> Start a new conversation (thread):
>> sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com
>>
>
>
> Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription
> preferences:
> http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners
>
> Start a new conversation (thread):
> sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com
>
Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription
preferences:
http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners
Start a new conversation (thread):
sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com
--
Frederick M. Hueston
www.stoneforensics.com
office 321 514 6845
Stone Inspection and Troubleshooting seminar January 21-24,2019 Las Vegas, NV
For more details see the training section at www.stoneforensics.comcheck out the Stone and Tile Radio Show at http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred Airs every Wednesday at 6pm EST
Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription
preferences:
http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners
Start a new conversation (thread):
sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com
Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription
preferences:
http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners
Start a new conversation (thread):
sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com
--
Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription
preferences:
http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners
Start a new conversation (thread):
sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com
Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription
preferences:
http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners
Start a new conversation (thread):
sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com
Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription
preferences:
http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners
Start a new conversation (thread):
sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com
Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription
preferences:
http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners
Start a new conversation (thread):
sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com
Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription
preferences:
http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners
Start a new conversation (thread):
sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com
Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription
preferences:
http://stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com/sccpartners
Start a new conversation (thread):
sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.simplelists.com