RE: [sccpartners] Limestone Entry John Freitag 05 Aug 2009 21:03 EDT
Braid, The first question I have is, if you are going to work on scaffolding and you are going up over 10 feet high is your workman comp insurance going to cover your tech? depending upon your classification once you over a certain height your workman's comp may become void. You may need a rider for this work, check with your insurance carrier. You commented that the limestone was damaged by water,and what you were seeing was light etching? Are you sure it's etching and not water staining within the stone? If you had success with the twister pad then that's the process I would go with. The 400 grit pad maybe cleaning up the staining if this is truly staining or etching? If you are having success with a neutral cleaner then continue with it. I prefer the Neutral Cleaner from StoneCare Central. If you could get close up pictures of the staining it would help to identify the problem and make better recommendations. Water feed hand machines generate lots of water even when the water flow is restricted as much as possible, most water feed machines are high RPM machines and now you are dealing with water control. I prefer a low RPM machine that runs around 500 to 700 RPM and use a spray water bottle. It much easier to control the water flow. I'm not sure what on the floor and what's on the wall that the water may damage. This job will take time and will require detail to protect the surrounding areas, even though they are hiring a company to clean the glass after you finish, if you not careful you will be cleaning the surrounding areas. if you can send some close up pictures of the etching (staining ) etc. it will help us to assist you with additional recommendations Best Regards, John E. Freitag President/Director The Stone and Tile School Office 407-567-7652 Cell 407-615-0134 jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com www.thestoneandtileschool.com -----Original Message----- From: Baird Standish [mailto:bairdstandish@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:06 PM To: Restoration and Maintenance Subject: [sccpartners] Limestone Entry Hi Everyone, We have a contract to clean and hone the limestone framing around the entry and windows at a church. The Limestone has been damaged by water. What this means and what I see is fine (and not so fine) etching from water, ingained white efflourescence, discoloration of the limestone itself (from iron oxide perhaps?) and general soot. They were unhappy with a "skimcoat" test-painted on - (probably R-97 by Cathedral Stone Products). Also, someone else tested Prosoco 942 and that didn't work either. I tested honing a portion of the wall with 400 grit Twister/velocity pads on a hand-held and using NCL Hurricane natural stone cleaner. It came out looking pretty good and gave it a nice smooth surface. My three questions are: 1. Any other cleaners that I might try? I have some Klenztone Limestone cleaner that might do the trick. I think I want to stay away from acidic solution. 2. We are going to be working up high on heavy duty scaffolding. I want to work out a way that chemicals and water don't spray all over the place and that the solution can be collected in some fashion. The windows will be cleaned professionally after we are done. We will put plastic, paper and tape around. 3. I am pondering getting a variable speed angle grinder with a water feed (maybe the Alpha variable speed polisher), but wondering if it is worth it. We haven't spent much time working up high on walls. So any suggestions would be great. Thanks, Baird -- Powered by http://DiscussThis.com Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription preferences: http://www.discussthis.com/members/sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com Start a new conversation (thread): sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com