RE: [sccpartners] Wax Stain on Slate Table Stone & Grout Meister 19 Aug 2009 10:48 EDT

Hi John, I haven’t tried honing powders but I did try a 180 grit carbide brush on a angle grinder. I thought that if I opened up the stone a little a poultice might work better. The stain did lighten a little, but I didn’t see any noticeable improvement from poultice. The 5" carbide brushes from EasterMarble.com is a must have ..... thanks again Derik at Rockland Stone.

The stain disappears when I wet the surface with water, if an enhancer would do the same thing and stay I would apply an enhancer and move on. I have some of the solvent based enhancer from StoneCare Central. Saturday I did a test on some travertine for a customer. I used Aqua Mix Stone Enhancer and StoneCare Central Stone Enhancer on the same piece of stone. The Aqua Mix Stone Enhancer required two coat to get the same results as one application of the StoneCare Central Stone Enhancer and it cost less.

The reason for trying a gasoline poultice is; Gasoline has a small amount of benzene in it and benzene is one of the products recommended by several people. But, I can't find benzene or any product with benzene locally for purchase.

Thanks,

Joe

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From: jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com [mailto:jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:50 AM
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Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Wax Stain on Slate Table

Joe,

Not sure I would try a gasoline poultice, have you tried using some honing powders over the area to blend in the demarcation lines? I recently worked on a slate floor and used honing powders to remove a white colored lines from the slate from an acid burn. I used a 250 grit black honing powder and it fix the problem. I then used the color enchancing sealer from StoneCaere Central and the customer was happy.

John Freitag
The Stone and Tile School

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Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:51pm
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Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Wax Stain on Slate Table

I was able to remove all the wax, but the slate has a stain from the dye in
the candle. Removing the wax was the easy part .... The stain is
approximately 18" in diameter with a clear line of demarcation. I did a
patch test with 9 various mixes, 3 applications each,  for 48 hours with no
noticeable difference between any of the tests.  I would replace the tiles
but it's a mosaic by a local artist/designer, so that's not an option. The
owner wants the slate enhanced. When I apply water to the area the stain
blends in nicely with the other tiles and the stains disappears. I've
considered applying an enhancer, but if that doesn't work out I'm up the
creek. I haven't been able to find benzene or styrene, gasoline has benzene
in it.  Never tried a gasoline poultice, but it might be worth a shot...

Joe

From: Mike Marsoun [mailto:nulifesc@bigpond.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7:41 PM
To: Restoration and Maintenance
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Wax Stain on Slate Table

You can try plain mineral spirits also, this does cut wax and is easy.

From: Stone & Grout Meister [mailto:mail@stoneandgroutmeister.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:24 AM
To: Restoration and Maintenance
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Wax Stain on Slate Table

Where you can styrene or benzene be purchased?  Thanks ...

From: fhueston@gmail.com [mailto:fhueston@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Dr Fred
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:17 AM
To: Restoration and Maintenance
Subject: RE: [sccpartners] Wax Stain on Slate Table

wax can be tricky to remove but if you have a stain it is most likely not
wax but the dyes used in the wax. If it is an organic dye peroxide should
take it out..If the dye is inorganic you will need a solvent. Try styrene or
benzene
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Stephen Webb
<stephen@newlifemarblerestoration.com> wrote:
As a last resort, Styrene is a wax solvent. I would test on scrap first.
I've never tried it with a poultice but I can tell you it does dissolve wax.
Stephen Webb
280-7387
www.newlifemarblerestoration.com <http://www.newlifemarblerestoration.com/>
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Subject: [sccpartners] Wax Stain on Slate Table
What's the best product to use when removing a wax stain caused by a candle
on  slate? I tried 2  poultices with methylene-cloridele didn't do much. My
next choice is  Acetone. Any recommendations ? I need to purchase Dr Fred's
stain removal guide..... Thanks

Joe

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