Ron, Failed to recommend a crystallizer, I would recommend StoneCare Central's crystallizer, when we need to use a crystallizer we use the StoneCare Central product. In fact we use ALL StoneCare Central Products, it a ONE STOP SHOP. I don't need to search out and place several orders with several companies that take time and effort. The ONE STOP SHOP will save you both time and money. What we sometime forget to save a dollar we burn up 10 dollars in time, and perhaps more. John E. Freitag President/Director The Stone and Tile School Office 407-567-7652 Cell 407-615-0134 jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com www.thestoneandtileschool.com -----Original Message----- From: John Freitag [mailto:jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 2:59 PM To: Restoration and Maintenance Subject: RE: [sccpartners] repair re-crystalize Ron, In respond to your questions regarding the blending of a newly honed and polished floor with a floors that has been crystallized over a period of time. 1. First thing you need to consider, the floor has been maintained for a period of time only with crystallization, the floor will take on a yellow look and is probably looking somewhat plastic. Also the floor will continue to scratch and when they polish only with crystallization you get shinny scratches. When you went in a honed the floor you removed all the scratches, you removed all the yellowed crystallization build up and therefore you have a new clean looking floor. 2. The question I raise is why did you start with a 50 grit diamond? Where there scratches in the floor lower than a 50 grit? The biggest mistakes made on floor restoration is most contractors start with too low of diamond grit, when I ask the question why in most cases the reply is that the way we were trained.In most cases it was a supplier of diamonds and chemical that trained the person, not saying this is true in your case. But remember suppliers are in business not so much to train you but to SELL you supplies. In most cases the lowest grit you would need to start with would be a 120 even if there is a crystallization build up unless you had scratchesw below a 50 grit. 3. My next question is unless the floor is black or green why would you hone up to an 800? In 90 % of floor restoration in lighter colors if you get a good hone and sp0end the correct time honing you can stop at 400. Unless it's a black or green floor. In everything I just mentioned the key is the right diamonds and the right polishing powders. My comments are based upon the use of StoneCare Central's triple thick diamonds and the use of StoneCare Centrals 5X polishing powders. ALL DIAMONDS AND POLISHING POWDERS ARE NOT CREATED EQUAL! You must spend the proper time when honing and polishing, this is a concept we teach at The Stone and Tile School, anyone that has attended the training always comments on the system we train. This system teaches you the proper timing for honing and polishing and is fail proof. The next time you go to this property look at the area you honed and polished compared it to the areas that are crystallized and you will see shinny scratches and you will see a yellow cast to the floor. So the long and short is anytime you hone and polish an area it will look different. If you are going to continue to maintain this floor with just crystallization you will run into some problems. We also offer Maintenance training that would help you with this problem. If you have any questions, fee free to call. John E. Freitag President/Director The Stone and Tile School Office 407-567-7652 Cell 407-615-0134 jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com www.thestoneandtileschool.com -----Original Message----- From: rmoore@americanstonecare.com [mailto:rmoore@americanstonecare.com] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 8:25 AM To: Restoration and Maintenance Subject: [sccpartners] repair re-crystalize Friends, I have a small dilema. We have a client with 28,000 sqft of marble floors. Before we picked this account up the floors had been crystalized. Do to the the expense of removing the crystalizer they decided to have us maintain the floor in the same manner. We were asked to remove some damage in the high traffic areas (around rec. desk etc.) and here is where we have a question. After starting with 50 grit resins, and feathering up to 800, we polished with 5x - waited an hour while working on another area, then re-crystalized. The problem I need help with is the shadow between my repair and the old crystalized surface.(it is only visible from 12-15 ft. away @ a certain angle) I was not able to blend the area like I would with a polished floor only. Is there any trick to blending crystalized areas? Also, the only crystalizer we have used is from VMC and if someone can reccomend something better- we are willing to try. Thanks in advance for your suggestions. Ron Moore, President American Stone Care, Inc. 16458 Lone Oak Place Hamilton, VA. 20158 540-338-5559 o 301-602-2307 c www.americanstonecare.com -- Powered by http://DiscussThis.com Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription preferences: http://www.discussthis.com/members/sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com Start a new conversation (thread): sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com -- Powered by http://DiscussThis.com Visit list archives, subscribe, unsubscribe or change your subscription preferences: http://www.discussthis.com/members/sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com Start a new conversation (thread): sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com
