Re: [sccpartners] how do you get the factory polish back on Kris Dougherty 15 Jul 2010 17:53 EDT
John This is great info. Question do you keep the floor wet with densifiers or water? Kris John Freitag wrote: > Kris > > I have found when using concrete densifiers most of the time there is not > enough dwell time for the densiflier to work. I learn may years ago when > using a concrete densiflier to wet the floor and keep it wet for a minimum > of 45 to 60 minutes. Then vac up the excess material. Then take a finish mop > and mop on a thin coat of the densilfier and allow it to dry overnight, the > next day come back and finish you honing you will achieve a better stronger > finish. > > This is why we see today many concrete polishing job start to show wear in a > short time. The floor that were done as I mentioned above wear much better. > The problem is today everyone wants to put down the densiflier and let it > work for 30 to 45 minutes and then continue grinding, in many cases they are > grinding wet and you never allowed the densifier to do its work and the wet > grinding dilutes the densifiler and the concrete never reaches it maximum > hardness, thus resulting in a softer finished product. Yes it take a little > longer but the results are better. > > > John E. Freitag > President/Director > The Stone and Tile School > Office 407-567-7652 > Cell 407-615-0134 > jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com > > > > www.thestoneandtileschool.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kris Dougherty [mailto:kris@marblefloorsandmore.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:36 PM > To: Restoration and Maintenance > Subject: RE: [sccpartners] how do you get the factory polish back on > > Thank you for your input. Yes we have burnishers and propain buffers and > we are a distributor for Americo so we have all those pads. So work more > towards dry and higher grit then granite process. > Great thanks. > Kris > > Fred Hueston wrote: > >> Kris >> >> You may also want to try going to a higher grit . Do you have a >> burnisher or access to one,,if so you can try the polishing twister >> pad on it as well. You can also try the 5x by starting wet and going >> dry with a hogs hair pad. >> >> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Kris Dougherty >> <kris@marblefloorsandmore.com <mailto:kris@marblefloorsandmore.com>> >> wrote: >> >> John, >> Thank you for the information. >> When we did the areas with densiflier I did not notice much of a >> difference. Maybe I should let more soak in for longer? >> The best results was when we started with 100 and worked up to 800 >> and then crystallizer. But the floor absorbed moister very easily. >> So I added a penetrating sealer and then crystallizer and I got a >> little more shine. The floor is cement base. I was thinking about >> either using grainite supplies or trying to polish the floor like >> it was just cement and start with 100 metal and then densifier and >> dry 200,400, 800 and high speed 1500 and 3000. >> What do you think? >> Kris >> >> >> John Freitag wrote: >> >> Kris, >> Go back and crystallize the floor you will increase the shine >> and the color. >> Unless the green is a Taiwan green. If it's Taiwan green you >> will not get a >> deep shine or a nice glossy finish. >> On cement based terrazzo you can grind it use a densiflier >> after the 220 >> hone then hone up to 800 or 1800 the floors will look very >> good. Want toi >> add additional shine then Crystallize the floor it will look >> great. in fact >> you could hone to 400 or 800 then crystallize and develop a >> great shine. >> The terrazzo institute recognizes crystallization as an >> acceptable method of >> polishing terrazzo. >> >> John E. Freitag President/Director >> The Stone and Tile School >> Office 407-567-7652 >> Cell 407-615-0134 >> jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com >> <mailto:jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> >> >> >> >> www.thestoneandtileschool.com >> <http://www.thestoneandtileschool.com> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kris Dougherty [mailto:kris@marblefloorsandmore.com >> <mailto:kris@marblefloorsandmore.com>] Sent: Wednesday, July >> 14, 2010 3:17 PM >> To: Restoration and Maintenance >> Subject: RE: [sccpartners] how do you get the factory polish >> back on >> >> Dr Fred. >> I have been testing a terrazzo floor in a school. The floor >> has a light green color to it. The pics I took did not turn >> out the way I needed. >> Here is my opportunity. >> The floor was waxed. All the wax was removed. >> The floor I could get a gloss on but not the deep shine I >> would have liked. >> I tested from 30 to 800 and 5x. With different combinations in >> different areas. >> I used all marble polishing supplies. >> Should I try granite supplies because of the lite green and >> maybe the chips are not marble as I was guessing? >> The floor was poured in 1950's. >> Kris >> >> Fred Hueston wrote: >> >> >> yes you can listen to all the shows once they are aired at >> www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred >> <http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred> >> <http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred> we will soon have >> a link on the STP site too >> >> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Mike Marsoun >> <nulifesc@bigpond.com <mailto:nulifesc@bigpond.com> >> <mailto:nulifesc@bigpond.com >> <mailto:nulifesc@bigpond.com>>> wrote: >> >> Are these archived. I will be out and would really like >> to hear >> this. There is a TON of engineered stone down here... >> >> Sent via BlackBerryR from Telstra >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >> >> *From: * Fred Hueston <fhueston@gmail.com >> <mailto:fhueston@gmail.com> >> <mailto:fhueston@gmail.com <mailto:fhueston@gmail.com>>> >> *Date: *Mon, 12 Jul 2010 15:55:23 -0400 >> *To: *Restoration and >> Maintenance<sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com >> <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com> >> <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com >> <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>>> >> *ReplyTo: * "Restoration and Maintenance" >> <sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com >> <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com> >> <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com >> <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>>> >> *Subject: *[sccpartners] how do you get the factory >> polish back on >> engineered stone >> >> Engineered stone can be faced polished very easily but >> getting >> back the factory shine can be tricky. tune in tonight >> at 7:30pm >> EST to find the little simple trick that will bring it >> back to >> that factory polish. listen in and don't be afraid to >> call in >> with your questions at www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred >> <http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred> >> <http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred> >> -- Frederick M. 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