Re: [sccpartners] how do you get the factory polish back on Stephen Webb 16 Jul 2010 01:15 EDT
So, you apply a wet coat of densifier and then keep it wet by spraying water on it ? thanks Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kris Dougherty" <kris@marblefloorsandmore.com> To: "Restoration and Maintenance" <sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 12:44 PM Subject: RE: [sccpartners] how do you get the factory polish back on > That is how I do it now, but I want to learn the wisdom from others > because this is the best lessons I have found. > Thank you for your info. > Kris > > flooramor@aim.com wrote: >> Kris, >> If I recall correctly from some last posts, you keep the floor wet with >> water. Do look at the archives, though so I don't pass along >> misinformation. >> J >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kris Dougherty <kris@marblefloorsandmore.com> >> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:53:12 To: Restoration and >> Maintenance<sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com> >> Reply-To:"Restoration and Maintenance" <sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com> >> Subject: RE: [sccpartners] how do you get the factory polish back on >> >> John >> This is great info. Question do you keep the floor wet with densifiers or >> water? >> Kris >> >> John Freitag wrote: >> >>> Kris >>> >>> I have found when using concrete densifiers most of the time there is >>> not >>> enough dwell time for the densiflier to work. I learn may years ago when >>> using a concrete densiflier to wet the floor and keep it wet for a >>> minimum >>> of 45 to 60 minutes. Then vac up the excess material. Then take a finish >>> mop >>> and mop on a thin coat of the densilfier and allow it to dry overnight, >>> the >>> next day come back and finish you honing you will achieve a better >>> stronger >>> finish. >>> This is why we see today many concrete polishing job start to show wear >>> in a >>> short time. The floor that were done as I mentioned above wear much >>> better. >>> The problem is today everyone wants to put down the densiflier and let >>> it >>> work for 30 to 45 minutes and then continue grinding, in many cases they >>> are >>> grinding wet and you never allowed the densifier to do its work and the >>> wet >>> grinding dilutes the densifiler and the concrete never reaches it >>> maximum >>> hardness, thus resulting in a softer finished product. Yes it take a >>> little >>> longer but the results are better. >>> >>> John E. Freitag President/Director >>> The Stone and Tile School >>> Office 407-567-7652 >>> Cell 407-615-0134 >>> jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com >>> >>> >>> >>> www.thestoneandtileschool.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Kris Dougherty [mailto:kris@marblefloorsandmore.com] Sent: >>> Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:36 PM >>> To: Restoration and Maintenance >>> Subject: RE: [sccpartners] how do you get the factory polish back on >>> >>> Thank you for your input. Yes we have burnishers and propain buffers and >>> we are a distributor for Americo so we have all those pads. So work more >>> towards dry and higher grit then granite process. >>> Great thanks. >>> Kris >>> >>> Fred Hueston wrote: >>> >>>> Kris >>>> >>>> You may also want to try going to a higher grit . Do you have a >>>> burnisher or access to one,,if so you can try the polishing twister pad >>>> on it as well. You can also try the 5x by starting wet and going dry >>>> with a hogs hair pad. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Kris Dougherty >>>> <kris@marblefloorsandmore.com <mailto:kris@marblefloorsandmore.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> John, >>>> Thank you for the information. >>>> When we did the areas with densiflier I did not notice much of a >>>> difference. Maybe I should let more soak in for longer? >>>> The best results was when we started with 100 and worked up to 800 >>>> and then crystallizer. But the floor absorbed moister very easily. >>>> So I added a penetrating sealer and then crystallizer and I got a >>>> little more shine. The floor is cement base. I was thinking about >>>> either using grainite supplies or trying to polish the floor like >>>> it was just cement and start with 100 metal and then densifier and >>>> dry 200,400, 800 and high speed 1500 and 3000. >>>> What do you think? >>>> Kris >>>> >>>> >>>> John Freitag wrote: >>>> >>>> Kris, >>>> Go back and crystallize the floor you will increase the shine >>>> and the color. >>>> Unless the green is a Taiwan green. If it's Taiwan green you >>>> will not get a >>>> deep shine or a nice glossy finish. >>>> On cement based terrazzo you can grind it use a densiflier >>>> after the 220 >>>> hone then hone up to 800 or 1800 the floors will look very >>>> good. Want toi >>>> add additional shine then Crystallize the floor it will look >>>> great. in fact >>>> you could hone to 400 or 800 then crystallize and develop a >>>> great shine. >>>> The terrazzo institute recognizes crystallization as an >>>> acceptable method of >>>> polishing terrazzo. >>>> >>>> John E. Freitag President/Director >>>> The Stone and Tile School >>>> Office 407-567-7652 >>>> Cell 407-615-0134 >>>> jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com >>>> <mailto:jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> www.thestoneandtileschool.com >>>> <http://www.thestoneandtileschool.com> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Kris Dougherty [mailto:kris@marblefloorsandmore.com >>>> <mailto:kris@marblefloorsandmore.com>] Sent: Wednesday, July >>>> 14, 2010 3:17 PM >>>> To: Restoration and Maintenance >>>> Subject: RE: [sccpartners] how do you get the factory polish >>>> back on >>>> >>>> Dr Fred. >>>> I have been testing a terrazzo floor in a school. The floor >>>> has a light green color to it. The pics I took did not turn >>>> out the way I needed. >>>> Here is my opportunity. >>>> The floor was waxed. All the wax was removed. >>>> The floor I could get a gloss on but not the deep shine I >>>> would have liked. >>>> I tested from 30 to 800 and 5x. With different combinations in >>>> different areas. >>>> I used all marble polishing supplies. >>>> Should I try granite supplies because of the lite green and >>>> maybe the chips are not marble as I was guessing? >>>> The floor was poured in 1950's. >>>> Kris >>>> >>>> Fred Hueston wrote: >>>> >>>> yes you can listen to all the shows once they are aired at >>>> www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred >>>> <http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred> >>>> <http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred> we will soon have >>>> a link on the STP site too >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Mike Marsoun >>>> <nulifesc@bigpond.com <mailto:nulifesc@bigpond.com> >>>> <mailto:nulifesc@bigpond.com >>>> <mailto:nulifesc@bigpond.com>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Are these archived. I will be out and would really like >>>> to hear >>>> this. There is a TON of engineered stone down here... >>>> >>>> Sent via BlackBerryR from Telstra >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>>> >>>> *From: * Fred Hueston <fhueston@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:fhueston@gmail.com> >>>> <mailto:fhueston@gmail.com <mailto:fhueston@gmail.com>>> >>>> *Date: *Mon, 12 Jul 2010 15:55:23 -0400 >>>> *To: *Restoration and >>>> Maintenance<sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com >>>> <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com> >>>> <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com >>>> <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>>> >>>> *ReplyTo: * "Restoration and Maintenance" >>>> <sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com >>>> <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com> >>>> <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com >>>> <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>>> >>>> *Subject: *[sccpartners] how do you get the factory >>>> polish back on >>>> engineered stone >>>> >>>> Engineered stone can be faced polished very easily but >>>> getting >>>> back the factory shine can be tricky. tune in tonight >>>> at 7:30pm >>>> EST to find the little simple trick that will bring it >>>> back to >>>> that factory polish. listen in and don't be afraid to >>>> call in >>>> with your questions at www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred >>>> <http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred> >>>> <http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred> >>>> -- Frederick M. 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