RE: [sccpartners] how do you get the factory polish back on John Freitag 17 Jul 2010 01:55 EDT
Stephen, You can keep it wet by adding water to it as needed, do not over water the surface just keep it wet for that45 to 60 minutes then remove the excess product with a wet vac and then mop on a very thin coat of the denisifier then allow to cure over night then start you honing process John E. Freitag President/Director The Stone and Tile School Office 407-567-7652 Cell 407-615-0134 jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com www.thestoneandtileschool.com -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Webb [mailto:stephen@newlifemarblerestoration.com] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 1:15 AM To: Restoration and Maintenance Subject: RE: [sccpartners] how do you get the factory polish back on So, you apply a wet coat of densifier and then keep it wet by spraying water on it ? thanks Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kris Dougherty" <kris@marblefloorsandmore.com> To: "Restoration and Maintenance" <sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 12:44 PM Subject: RE: [sccpartners] how do you get the factory polish back on > That is how I do it now, but I want to learn the wisdom from others > because this is the best lessons I have found. > Thank you for your info. > Kris > > flooramor@aim.com wrote: >> Kris, >> If I recall correctly from some last posts, you keep the floor wet with >> water. Do look at the archives, though so I don't pass along >> misinformation. >> J >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kris Dougherty <kris@marblefloorsandmore.com> >> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:53:12 To: Restoration and >> Maintenance<sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com> >> Reply-To:"Restoration and Maintenance" <sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com> >> Subject: RE: [sccpartners] how do you get the factory polish back on >> >> John >> This is great info. Question do you keep the floor wet with densifiers or >> water? >> Kris >> >> John Freitag wrote: >> >>> Kris >>> >>> I have found when using concrete densifiers most of the time there is >>> not >>> enough dwell time for the densiflier to work. I learn may years ago when >>> using a concrete densiflier to wet the floor and keep it wet for a >>> minimum >>> of 45 to 60 minutes. Then vac up the excess material. Then take a finish >>> mop >>> and mop on a thin coat of the densilfier and allow it to dry overnight, >>> the >>> next day come back and finish you honing you will achieve a better >>> stronger >>> finish. >>> This is why we see today many concrete polishing job start to show wear >>> in a >>> short time. The floor that were done as I mentioned above wear much >>> better. >>> The problem is today everyone wants to put down the densiflier and let >>> it >>> work for 30 to 45 minutes and then continue grinding, in many cases they >>> are >>> grinding wet and you never allowed the densifier to do its work and the >>> wet >>> grinding dilutes the densifiler and the concrete never reaches it >>> maximum >>> hardness, thus resulting in a softer finished product. Yes it take a >>> little >>> longer but the results are better. >>> >>> John E. Freitag President/Director >>> The Stone and Tile School >>> Office 407-567-7652 >>> Cell 407-615-0134 >>> jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com >>> >>> >>> >>> www.thestoneandtileschool.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Kris Dougherty [mailto:kris@marblefloorsandmore.com] Sent: >>> Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:36 PM >>> To: Restoration and Maintenance >>> Subject: RE: [sccpartners] how do you get the factory polish back on >>> >>> Thank you for your input. Yes we have burnishers and propain buffers and >>> we are a distributor for Americo so we have all those pads. So work more >>> towards dry and higher grit then granite process. >>> Great thanks. >>> Kris >>> >>> Fred Hueston wrote: >>> >>>> Kris >>>> >>>> You may also want to try going to a higher grit . Do you have a >>>> burnisher or access to one,,if so you can try the polishing twister pad >>>> on it as well. You can also try the 5x by starting wet and going dry >>>> with a hogs hair pad. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Kris Dougherty >>>> <kris@marblefloorsandmore.com <mailto:kris@marblefloorsandmore.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> John, >>>> Thank you for the information. >>>> When we did the areas with densiflier I did not notice much of a >>>> difference. Maybe I should let more soak in for longer? >>>> The best results was when we started with 100 and worked up to 800 >>>> and then crystallizer. But the floor absorbed moister very easily. >>>> So I added a penetrating sealer and then crystallizer and I got a >>>> little more shine. The floor is cement base. I was thinking about >>>> either using grainite supplies or trying to polish the floor like >>>> it was just cement and start with 100 metal and then densifier and >>>> dry 200,400, 800 and high speed 1500 and 3000. >>>> What do you think? >>>> Kris >>>> >>>> >>>> John Freitag wrote: >>>> >>>> Kris, >>>> Go back and crystallize the floor you will increase the shine >>>> and the color. >>>> Unless the green is a Taiwan green. If it's Taiwan green you >>>> will not get a >>>> deep shine or a nice glossy finish. >>>> On cement based terrazzo you can grind it use a densiflier >>>> after the 220 >>>> hone then hone up to 800 or 1800 the floors will look very >>>> good. Want toi >>>> add additional shine then Crystallize the floor it will look >>>> great. in fact >>>> you could hone to 400 or 800 then crystallize and develop a >>>> great shine. >>>> The terrazzo institute recognizes crystallization as an >>>> acceptable method of >>>> polishing terrazzo. >>>> >>>> John E. Freitag President/Director >>>> The Stone and Tile School >>>> Office 407-567-7652 >>>> Cell 407-615-0134 >>>> jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com >>>> <mailto:jfreitag@thestoneandtileschool.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> www.thestoneandtileschool.com >>>> <http://www.thestoneandtileschool.com> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Kris Dougherty [mailto:kris@marblefloorsandmore.com >>>> <mailto:kris@marblefloorsandmore.com>] Sent: Wednesday, July >>>> 14, 2010 3:17 PM >>>> To: Restoration and Maintenance >>>> Subject: RE: [sccpartners] how do you get the factory polish >>>> back on >>>> >>>> Dr Fred. >>>> I have been testing a terrazzo floor in a school. The floor >>>> has a light green color to it. The pics I took did not turn >>>> out the way I needed. >>>> Here is my opportunity. >>>> The floor was waxed. All the wax was removed. >>>> The floor I could get a gloss on but not the deep shine I >>>> would have liked. >>>> I tested from 30 to 800 and 5x. With different combinations in >>>> different areas. >>>> I used all marble polishing supplies. >>>> Should I try granite supplies because of the lite green and >>>> maybe the chips are not marble as I was guessing? >>>> The floor was poured in 1950's. >>>> Kris >>>> >>>> Fred Hueston wrote: >>>> >>>> yes you can listen to all the shows once they are aired at >>>> www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred >>>> <http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred> >>>> <http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred> we will soon have >>>> a link on the STP site too >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Mike Marsoun >>>> <nulifesc@bigpond.com <mailto:nulifesc@bigpond.com> >>>> <mailto:nulifesc@bigpond.com >>>> <mailto:nulifesc@bigpond.com>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Are these archived. I will be out and would really like >>>> to hear >>>> this. There is a TON of engineered stone down here... >>>> >>>> Sent via BlackBerryR from Telstra >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>>> >>>> *From: * Fred Hueston <fhueston@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:fhueston@gmail.com> >>>> <mailto:fhueston@gmail.com <mailto:fhueston@gmail.com>>> >>>> *Date: *Mon, 12 Jul 2010 15:55:23 -0400 >>>> *To: *Restoration and >>>> Maintenance<sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com >>>> <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com> >>>> <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com >>>> <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>>> >>>> *ReplyTo: * "Restoration and Maintenance" >>>> <sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com >>>> <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com> >>>> <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com >>>> <mailto:sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>>> >>>> *Subject: *[sccpartners] how do you get the factory >>>> polish back on >>>> engineered stone >>>> >>>> Engineered stone can be faced polished very easily but >>>> getting >>>> back the factory shine can be tricky. tune in tonight >>>> at 7:30pm >>>> EST to find the little simple trick that will bring it >>>> back to >>>> that factory polish. listen in and don't be afraid to >>>> call in >>>> with your questions at www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred >>>> <http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred> >>>> <http://www.blogtalkradio.com/drfred> >>>> -- Frederick M. 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