RE: [sccpartners] Green Marble BAIRDSTANDISH@comcast.net 02 Jan 2009 09:17 EST

Stu,
I am not familiar with monkey pads.  Are they like alpha pads?  Where does one get them?  Thanks,
Baird

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From: "stuart rosen" <mail@stoneshine.com>
> Jason,
> How big is the floor?Strip the wax off first to see what the floor actually
> looks like you may be surprised.It could possibly be in better condition
> then you thought then you can make a better assesment of what to do.Try and
> find the easiest way to restore the floor.
> It is probably best to grind it flat(and take it up till you get a good
> reflection and clarity) as it will be easier to polish.But it really depends
> on the size of the bathroom,the condition of the floor,the stone and the
> customers expectation.Some greens can be easier to work with.Consider the
> pricing as well if this is based on a one day job you will need to get in
> and out especially if your driving for four hours.
> Maybe using a combination of diamonds,twisters or monkey pads(wet and
> dry) and mb-12 which if used correctly on serpentine works very well(tin
> oxides work well also).I have been able to polish some greens with monkey
> pads going dry at high speed after removing the wear and tear.(however it
> lacks clarity)
> To really sum it up to work on greens you need to bring out the tools that
> will get you out of the bathroom with a satisfied customer.
> As far as the mb-20(for granite) is concerned it is really an amazing
> product.
> Like any other product you need to try it out for yourself in a
> test environment so you can become comfortable before taking it out on a
> job. Like most polishing compounds there are no step by step instructions
> for every surface you work on but start out with a small amount and go from
> there.You will be surprised what you can offer your customers with the
> mb-20.
> If I can help in any way please feel free to call anytime.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Randy Frye <rfrye@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >  Mr. Webb
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your comment.
> >
> >
> >
> > I attended Fred's (NTC) class about 11years ago. This is what Fred
> > suggested. It's always worked for me as well.
> >
> >
> >
> > Randy
> >
> > Cleaning Edge
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* stephen@newlifemarblerestoration.com [mailto:
> > stephen@newlifemarblerestoration.com]
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:56 PM
> >
> > *To:* Restoration and Maintenance
> > *Subject:* RE: [sccpartners] Green Marble
> >
> >
> >
> > Last year I did some green serpintine at the ritz carlton just the way
> > Randy discribed with great success. good luck
> >
> > Stephen Webb
> > 808 280-7387
> > newlifemarblerestoration.com
> >
> >  ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > *From:* Jason Francis <jfrancis@protocolfloorcare.com>
> >
> > *To:* Restoration and Maintenance <sccpartners@stoneandtilepros.com>
> >
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:32 AM
> >
> > *Subject:* RE: [sccpartners] Green Marble
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Randy.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have to drive over two and a half hours to this job so returning another
> > day is something I would rather not do.
> >
> >
> >
> > Is crystallizing the only way to get a nice shine? I have heard some would
> > use a granite powder instead.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* Randy Frye [mailto:rfrye@comcast.net]
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2008 4:03 PM
> > *To:* Restoration and Maintenance
> > *Subject:* RE: [sccpartners] Green Marble
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jason:
> >
> >
> >
> >      Q. Any chance I can get away with not grinding or would this be too
> > risky?
> >
> >
> >
> > A.    If your resin diamonds don't chip up going over the lippage you can
> > get away with not grinding.
> >
> >
> >
> > Q.   Would I use diamonds to remove the wax or use a stripper prior?
> >
> > A.   Stripper
> >
> >
> >
> > Q.  I am wondering what to use to get the best shine?
> >
> > A.  Work your diamonds up to at least 3500 resin, polish with a mild marble
> > polishing compound, wait a day for the stone to dry out come back and use a
> > quality crystallizer to bring up the shine.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >         Good luck
> >
> >         Randy
> >
> >         Cleaning Edge, Naples, FL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Jason Francis [mailto:jfrancis@protocolfloorcare.com]
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2008 3:21 PM
> > *To:* Restoration and Maintenance
> > *Subject:* [sccpartners] Green Marble
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am hoping to get as much feedback as possible for my first green marble
> > job. It is a bathroom 10 years old and has a couple stains. The customer has
> > put butchers wax on on a couple occasions. It has very minor lippage. Any
> > chance I can get away with not grinding or would this be too risky? Would I
> > use diamonds to remove the wax or use a stripper prior? I am wondering what
> > to use to get the best shine? I have MB-12, the new mb-20 cream for
> > granite(curious if anyone has used), or just a tin oxide powder? The
> > adjacent walls are also marble so I am hoping that I can get the floor dark
> > again.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your feedback,
> >
> >
> >
> > Jason
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Protocol*
> > *Jason Francis*
> > *Stone Restoration Pro*
> >
> > jfrancis@protocolfloorcare.com
> > 333 Norton Road
> > Red Hook, NY
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> > tel:
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> &Email=jfrancis@hvc.rr.com>
> > fax: 845-622-4886
> >
> >
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RE: [sccpartners] Green Marble stuart rosen 01 Jan 2009 12:05 EST